It is no surprise to me that Andi Dorfman and Josh Murray ended their romance as I detected problems months ago as Iexamined their body language.
Before the Final Rose, I did a blog predicting that Andi Dorfman would choose Josh Murray over all of the other contestants and it turned out to be the case. At the same time I predicted that if Andi wasn’t treated like a priority and a star in the relationship, there would be trouble . Based on their body language after looking at their twitter and instagram photos,, there seemed to be trouble with their relationship which seemed to begin right after the post Bachelorette interviews as you will see.
Josh Trying To Dominate A Strong Independent Bright Woman
It began in the above photo when they were both in NYC and Josh was continually seen walking in front of her and not by her side or having her out front. After all she was the star of the show and didn’t need to be dragged behind. It was disrespectful and screamed of Josh wanting to take control.
During the interviews it was as though Josh acted as though he was the star of the Bachelor and not the other way around with Adni being the star He constantly kept interrupting her and stepping on what she was trying to say. He constantly kept trying to dominate the conversation and this did not go over well with Andi.
Andi was so annoyed by this that she even reached out to touch him as a signal for him to be quiet and let her speak. She tried several times to be out front in center but he would not let her.
There was also a below video which literally made my skin crawl where Josh tried to take over. It was uncomfortable to watch as you can see. He tried to dominate . A competition between a couple never works in a relationship as you can see in the video below.
Also Josh was visibly annoyed when interviewers would bring up Nick Vial outing Andy for sleeping with him when she was going to choose Josh. Josh was literally squirming in his seat through a phony tense smile when this topic came up. In one interview you could see him smile as she reached for a glass of water and sipped it, indicating that his autonomic nervous system was working overtime. Deep down he most likely was distressed about this. Adding to his distress and to why he may be so distant, which may be the underlying reason for tension in their relationship is the public’s commentary in slut shaming his fiance.
The whole Nick outing of Andi needed to be handed differently. Andi needed to have put an immediate stop to the fallout of Nick outing her for sleeping with him by saying on these interviews that a.she really didn’t know it was Josh until the last minute because she still had some concerns b. when she said during the proposal show that she always knew it was Josh all along. She needed to say she was caught up in the moment and excitement of the ring ceremony. She needed to explain that what she meant to say was that she was super attracted to Josh as he was her physical type the second she saw him. People would understand that.
Since Nick gave Andi such a zing on TV in hindsight , she could have done several things instead of saying it was private. She could have lied and said” what are you talking about, I never slept with you. How can you lie like that?” This woud have put Nick in his place. She also could have said that she thought he might be the one until that night when she found no sexual chemistry with him.That too would have put him in his place.
But Andi was understandably taken aback, so it was difficult to come back quickly.
As for Nick, there is no question that he is a Toxic and evil and revengeful man who literally punished and destroyed Andi for not selecting him. He helped destroy the beginnings of a future with Josh. I say” helped” because Josh it seems can’t get past this and has detached as you will see in the photos below. Nick destroyed Andi’s reputation and career opportunities. Perhaps the reason DWTS didn’t choose her was because of all of the slut shaming and negative fallout and reaction to her from what he revealed to millions of viewers.
This is a shame becuase DWTS could have added to Andi’s fan base and her career outside of law as a possible show host ( a legal show host specifically).
While Nick may have contributed to the possible destruction of Josh and Andi’s relationship, there were other things in force since day one. Andii and Josh may have been a physical match and looked cute together, but they were no mental match. Andi is super bright and after a while his inability to mentally stimulate her could grate on her nerves. Since he is such a competitive guy, no doubt there may have been competition with Andi to put her in her place and show he is the boss and to attempt to control her as he demonstated in several interviews. Andi does not need to take a backseat to anyone.
The next major red flag concern was Josh’s family and his mother telling her in no uncertain terms that Josh was never going to cut the apron strings. No woman wants to hear that. Perhaps that is why we see Andi not looking so thrtilled in photos when she has to attend Aaron;s games.
My initial concern about the relationship took place when I saw the visit to Josh’s family, especially when Josh’s mother Lauren spoke of Josh never cutting the apron strings with her. Afterwards Andi’s facial expression said it all as it did when Josh’s father told her let her know that Arron and family football games were a priority. Even Andi expressed concerns that the family wasn’t as happy for Josh finding love as they were about Aaron’s football career.
The next huge red flag issue which I saw during the family visit was that the family didn’t see the specialness of Andi and in stead were more interested in their favorite son Aaron and his newly engaged mate. Andi seemed to be an afterthought to Josh’s mom. Josh is also a self described mamma’s boy and that never works in a successful relationship
Above is Josh showing off and taking the limelight which I am sure Andi found annoying after a while. Andi is the star and Josh did not allow her to shine in my view.
Andi has a tense smile around Josh which was not genuine. You could see that he made her uncomfortable after a while.
Josh’s mother seemed more thrilled that Arron got engaged in my view. While she did put a photo of Josh and Andi up on her page she didn’t seem as thrilled about it. Also you can see here how stiff and uncomfortable Andi looked around Josh. There was also too much distance between them as they both seemed t be repelled by one another. Josh seemed to give the dog more attention and affection than Andi. Amdi was a trouper and tried to embrace the dog. Once again there is too much distance and not enough affection between Josh and Andii. Andi looks miserable with Josh and his sister. Look at her smile it is pained and not genuine as the apples of her cheeks are not raised and her eyes don’t squint in a genuine smile. Also she needed to be standing next to Josh not the sister. Joshn’s hand in his pocket to me indicates he has something to hide-like his true negative feelings towards Andi.Here we see too much distance between the couple and a very non genuine tight smile with Andi.
Here we see no smiling eyes which indicates a lot of tension in the realtionship.
And finally by the time Thanksgiving rolled around it was clearly over as you can see by Andi’s body language.Too much distance between Josh and Andi and a sour expression on Andi’s face, Her arm i over the chair and Andi looks stiff and uncomfortable around Josh.
This photo says it all with Andi all the way at the end while Josh hugs mama and sister . How can any woman compete with that? It shows that Andi was not as importanta s Josh’s family.
Slut Shaming In Media
Because this wasn’t addressed immediately, Andi was slut shamed and called the most promiscuous bachelorette. Even one journalist actually called her a slut on Fox TV. Unfortunately I believe this had a very negative impact on her relationship with Josh because he appears to be to insecure to handle this and may feel it reflected poorly on him. And unfortunately it may also have a negative impact on her brand and her credibility and her career in the limelight .If she was a bimbo like Kim Kardashian or Paris Hilton it would not matter. But she is a formidable professional woman and it does matter. I will adress what she needs to do to rectify the situation later on in this blog.
This must have had an impact on their relationship. But during the interviews I saw Josh trying to be in charge and become center stage. Truth is Andi is the star and he did not let her speak. He needed to take more of a backseat publicaly.
I also predicted that there would be problems in the relationship if Andi wasn’t treated as a priority. Andi has been a star all her life -in school and in her family and with her friends. For her to be in a relationship where she is not the star, but rather takes a backseat was no doubt in my view, torture for her. She needs to be front and center where things revolve around her- not Josh or his family. She is very special with star quality and a man needs to recognize that.
At first they couldn’t get enough of one another and were all physically entwined in one another but it qucikly changed as Josh revealed his true competitive personality towards her.
Andi is certainly the brighter of the two and the “star” of the relationship as I see it. Josh needed to both understand that and respect that for it to work.
Now that they broke up, Andi lost the million dollars she would have received from ABC if they had the the lavish wedding, But she may be saving herself in the long run.Josh had no life before Andi came into the picture. Although he may have been in the finance business to me it didn’t seem he was that successful To me he just seemed like a companion and cheerleader to his brother Aaron. He wasa failed baseball player who never made it to the major leagues. Now we have come to find out that he was in trouble with the law in 2008 and arrested in a booze fueled faceoff with a police office To me this shows that Josh may have had or still even has issues perhaps with authority as well as anger issues and maybe even possible alcohol issues. Regardless, this does not look good in my book. The last thing Andi needed in her career asa DA was to have a husband who had problems with the law. It would not bode well for her.
In my view, Andi’s choosing him as a potential mate, gave him a career and made it possible for the management company to be interested in him. Prior to their meeting he had nothing of that nature and no one was interested in him. Now that they have broken up, his brand most likely will not be as strong and he may not get the gigs he thought he could get becuase they are no longer a couple. In my view most people will now lose interest. That happens when the real l brand is over which was Josh and Andi.
But even if his own brand dies which it will he had now has some experience with how it all works so he could change his course and become his bothers manager and try to get him endorsements since Aaron is a bonafide football star and may have more public likeability. In my view how Josh treated Andy during their interviews and publically shows that he is not likeable and has an edge about him that is not appealing to the masses in my view.
If I seem harsh about Josh it is because if he was smart he would have shown more respect for Andi and allowed her to shime as he was the star of the show and he forgot that. It seemed to be too much about Josh and his needs and not about both of their needs as a couple.
ReinVenting Andi’s Image – What Andi Needs to Do to Save Her Career
Now that they broke up, Andi needs some major PR to clean up her brand and her reputation. In essence, she needs to reinvent herself.
1. She needs to take some of that Bachelorette ]money and invest in a top gear PR agent. Maybe she can also revisit the Nick issue and make it clear that he was not a gentleman but she slept with him because she had serious doubts about Josh after she met Josh’s over controlling family. She needs to say how Josh’s family upset her and how that was a factor that she considered which confused her and drew her to Nick as she loved his family. She needs to have a PR campaign about Double Standards in women and slut shaming and bullying women and address women’s sexuality in her media pr campaign in order to regain her reputation.
2. She needs to also talk about how when one is considering marriage they marry a family and hoew Joshs Jock family was too invasive and not for her. She needs to make women aware that a family is just as important as the relationship. She needs to say how she couldn’t take a life of football games and everything revolving around Josh’s brother Aaron. She also needs to speak about losing herself in the relationship and how ultimately the family’s life style was not for her. She needs to admit how she and Josh could never build a family of their own with all of these outside family pressures and influences.
3. Andi needs to drop the dress desiinging and clothing design career. The tee shirt she It may be good as a hobby but there are too many other designers out there who are much more talented for her to succeed .
Andi took a 1967 famous Anti War poster and put a silly little peach where the O was supposed to be and where the type is esentially the same. and is selling this what many could view as a plagerized art form for $48 dollars. It has cheapened Andi and made others disrespect her. So she needs to cut lose of that clothing designer fantasy she has. So far she has not shown that she is creative in this area.
Also with regard to her $15 dress she made for the Bachelor red carpet event, it smaked of pasive agressiveness to me. It said I am not going to try anymore because I know my relationship with Josh is over so I don;t care. i refuse to go all out and dress uo. First of all the color was awful and material looked cheap. For the event that it was, she needed to glam up as she glammed up throughout the show. Certainly she would have borrowed and outfit but this was a statement that she is in the designing business and it didn’t work. The dress did not show off her figure, In fact it added pounds to her in my view. It certainly did not show her dress designing skills as it was not exciting or different.
2.She needs to focus on her uniqueness as a district attorney and come from her strength and intellect. She needs to do legal commentary. Since she is in Atlanta she may want to get her chops by being a local legal analyst on a local TV station. She also needs to hire a PR agent who specializes in getting her legal commentary gigs so she could be on the radio and on TV and online all the time and build up her media portfolio in a more respectful manner, not as the Bachelorette. She is also in Altanta which is the headquarters of CNN so she could easily be a legal guest on many of their shows.
4.While she is very pretty her voice leaves a lot to be desired. She needs to see an ENT surgeon to restructure her sinuses as she is super denasal and that could hurt her media career as she is very difficult to listen to. She needs some major voice and speech therapy training to help her get rid of the denasality. But to me is sounds like a structural problem so she needs to have the inside of her nose revamped surgically. She needs to go to the ENT Dept at Emory University in Atlanta and see what they can offer her. She also needs to go there for speech and voice therapy and coaching. If she cant find anyone in her area she needs to call my office in Los Angeles and I can help her sound better for sure. She also needs to work on her on camera presence so that she works on her Bitchy Resting Face and downturned mouth which is not appealing especially for a media career. That would require a lot of work on her part and once again I could certainly help her with that
5. And finally she needs to thank God she is away from that Toxic Jock Family where she fit in like a sore thumb. She needs to find a man who is on her intellectual level and emotional level as there was a lot missing with Josh. He may have been handsome and had a nice body but that wore thin as he was no intellectual or emotional match for Andi.She is one lucky lady who got out of that relationship before it was too late. I hope she follows the advice in this blog as it could turn her life and her reputation around in a very positive way.