JonBenet Ramsey Brother’s Inappropriate Disturbing Smile and Body Language on Dr. Phil Interview

 

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Twenty years ago 6 year old  child beauty queen, JonBenet Ramsey was strangled in her own home. There were only three people in the home at the time – her mother, father,and brother Burke. There was a lot of suspicion centered on the parents and even more suspicion centered on the brother’s involvement.

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One thing which led to the suspicion involving the parents, was the  ransom letter which was allegedly left behind. There was specific information in it that that only family members knew. It also seemed to have terms that Patsy Ramsey normally used and much of the writing allegedly looked like her writing.  Also. it was determined the pad used to write the ransom note came from Patsy’s desk in the hallway and that both the pad  and her pen were found underneath the phone.

Another cause for suspicion was when  Patty was overheard in the background of her 911 call to police angrily admonishing her son Burke. She said  that she didn’t want to hear another world from “You!” Was she trying to cover something up regarding him? I always found that incident particularly disturbing. If she just lost one child, it would seem that she might have been more gentle and loving towards another child who’s life was allegedly spared.

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Many eyed Burke as the killer.  In fact, in his Dr.Phil interview, he says “I know people think I did it.”  Many thought that Burke had a motive to killing JonBenet because she was given so much more attention with her mother. She spent more time with her mother on the beauty pageant circuit. This early photo of  JonBenet and brother Burke says a lot ot me. JonBenet is loving and affectionate, while Burke  is stiff . He seems to be wishing she would literally get off is back .

At the time of the murder, any also thought that Burke’s behavior was odd.  In fact, back then, I was often asked by the media to comment upon Burke’s behavior. I was even asked  to look at his drawings. I found  them to be very odd and disturbing.

As a child, Burke was constantly playing with videogames and disengaging. Now he has been interviewed by Dr. Phil and his body language is still odd and  disturbing.

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Before Dr. Phil asked him anything,  you could see Burke having some repetitive hand movements.

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When he spoke about what he remembered about the evening JonBenet was found dead he told  Dr. Phil,  ‘The first thing I remember is my mom bursting in my room, really frantic, saying, “Oh my gosh! Oh my gosh! Oh my gosh!” running around my room – now I know looking for JonBenét,”The next thing I remember is a police officer coming into my room and shining a flashlight.’  

But  what is very disturbing is that he recalled the incident with a huge genuine smile. In the photo above, you can see his eyes crinkle, his teeth showing, and the apples of his cheeks raised. All of this indicates a real genuine smile. It is  indicating happiness. This is not a nervous smile. Instead, it is a happy, elated smile.

Also, when he recounted the story, it seemed odd that Patsy woke him up and was asking  him where JonBenet was when her husband found the body inthe basement. In essence, Patsy already knew where JonBenet was. Did Burke make this up or is he telling the truth? Whatever he said is masked by his huge smile, which may also possibly be a signal of deception.


The fact the smile didn’t seem to leave his face throughout the interview seems to be a possible cause for concern. When he spoke of the  drawings he was asked to do  by the child psychologist at the time,  he still smiled. He said that since JonBenet was no longer alive he didn’t draw her. Perhaps his not drawing her at the time reflected a relief for him that his “focus of attention” sister was no longer the focus of attention becuase she was no longer alive.

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Burke seemed too happy when recounting his  story about JonBenet  which makes one  wonder if he still exhibits a subconscious sign (through his  bright smile) that he is happy and relieved  JonBenet is no longer alive. Perhaps she was the cause for  much of his unhappiness as a child . After all,  as a beauty queen, she was always in the foreground  as far as attention was concerned.  Burke was relegated to the background .

Three years after JonBenet’s death in 1999, a  grand jury voted to indict JonBenet Ramsey’s parents.  But the district attorney never signed the indictment because he didn’t believe there was enough evidence to convict them. Also Burke and his parents  were eventually cleared of suspicion in 2008, when DNA pegged the crime on an unidentified male with no familial relation to JonBenet.

After watching Burke on camera with Dr. Phil, it made me wonder if Burke may be on the spectrum in terms of autism. Does he has Asperger’s syndrome, with his incongruous hand gestures and inappropriate smiling?  Was his constantly being seen playing with his video games and seeming disconnected as a child an early indication of this disorder?

There is no doubt that a lot has impacted Burke- from his sister getting more attention,  his sister’s  gory murder, and  his mother’s ovarian cancer and death in 2008, not to mention all of the suspicion and accusations towards him and his family.  The bottom line is that his demeanor  during the interview was still  very odd and inappropriate.

 

222 thoughts on “JonBenet Ramsey Brother’s Inappropriate Disturbing Smile and Body Language on Dr. Phil Interview

  1. I think it’s beyond vile to continue to blame this young man and his parents when they have been cleared of harming Jon Benet. You state, “After watching Burke on camera with Dr. Phil, it made me wonder if Burke may be on the spectrum in terms of autism. Does he have Asperger’s syndrome ….” This could well be the case but why is this pointed out while still casting suspicion? Burke could be on the spectrum or he could be a very shy, nervous young man who has constantly been whispered about with no evidence of having committed any crime. You also state that John Ramsey found Jon Benet in the basement so why question Burke. John did not find her body for many hours after police and friends had arrived. Patsy was looking for Jon Benet when only the family was there and right after she discovered Jon Benet missing.

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    1. Burke told Dr. Phil that his mother came into the room frantically looking for JonBenet. When he was 9 he told the psychologist that it was his father , not his mother who came into his room and told him what was going on and told him what to do. He said he only heard his mother downstairs as he was in his room. And his smiling was very inappropriate, especially when he spoke of his mother. He did it in the Dr. Phil interview and 20 years earlier. He was never smiling during the 9 year old interview but as soon as he discussed his mother’s frantic search for his sister he broke out in a huge smile. It is called “duping delight”.

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      1. Linda, I have to agree, the tone of this post is inappropriate. Dr. Glass your comment that he smiles when his mothers “anguish” is discussed and implies he takes pleasure at her anguish, this suggestion is not appropriate. Perhaps your way to raise the issue could be less harsh. When one considers that his inability to express emotions in a normal manner and smiling may actually indicate discomfort changes the perspective. I wish that people better understood spectrum disorders. Burke might actually feel safe to be open about that if society was no apt to bully those on the spectrum.

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      2. Mom went into his room immediately after giving the ransom note to Dad, she then called 911 after Dad told her to. His Dad came in to get him up a couple of hours later. Strange that they felt safe leaving him alone for two hours but would we really want our other child involved in all the commotion if we thought the “bad guy” was gone & Burke was safely asleep in his bed?

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      3. Interesting. I have read about facial expressions before, and I think some of us naturally read them pretty accuratly. But that whole subject fascinates me. His smile is definatly a full on happy smile that engadges the eyes too , rather than a fake nervous smile. He actually seemed boerd to me when asked about the contents about the ransom note, rather than finding it too painful to have read it . I really think its denial, that makes people want to contribute his lack of appropriate emotional affect to nervousness or some condition, rather than the actual case for it. I know a young adult with aspbergers who lost his adopted father several years ago, and he did not display this type of happy grinning affect at all. He may not display a ton of emotion, admits hes a more cold person, but was subdued and still had a typical grief response.

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      4. No his smile is not happy smile that engages the eyes. It is an inappropriate mask- like smile. The only time his cheeks were engaged in his smile and his eyes crinkled was when he spoke of his mother’s agony regarding JonBenet. He made that genuine smile when he was 9 and again at 29.

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      5. Thank you! I agree with your analysis.
        The only question/issue I have is about this: “Also, when he recounted the story, it seemed odd that Patsy woke him up and was asking him where JonBenet was when her husband found the body in the basement.” — John Ramsey didn’t actually “discover” the body until 1:05pm. So, when Burke was allegedly awakened, the ruse of the kidnapping was still in progress, n’est pas?

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    2. No one is blaming, only questioning, His behavior as his interviews were very odd. You said there is a cast of suspicion as I never said that. It is how you interpret it. And if you watched Burke’s interview at 9 years old he said his father came into his room not his mother, He also smiled only when speaking of his mother’s anguish, which was very interesting. There are many unanswered questions. Many believe the initial investigation was botched and many question what is true and what is not true. After watching Burke’s interview I merely ask questions. The whole case is very tragic and very confusing.

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      1. Remember back when the Ramseys first appeared on TV. Their “affect” also seemed inappropriate for parents who had just lost a child in such a hideous fashion. This is the main reason people just didn’t believe they weren’t somehow involved – we just didn’t see US acting ilike THEM. Maybe – ust maybe, they were not involved but do have a hidden issue with a mental/neurological disorder. This inappropriate affect may run in the family due to some undisclosed disorder. OR, the family was somehow involved without leaving their actual DNA. This case still baffles me.

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      2. You said, when he recounted the story, it seemed odd that Patsy woke him up and was asking him where JonBenet was when her husband found the body in the basement. In essence, Patsy already knew where JonBenet was. Did Burke make this up or is he telling the truth? Whatever he said is masked by his huge smile, which may also possibly be a signal of deception. Did you follow the story?? When Patsy or John (doesn’t matter to me who it was) went into Burke’s room in a panic saying “where’s my baby?”Jon Benet had not been found yet. They discovered her missing in the early morning. Her body wasn’t found in the basement until hours after police had been there at 1 pm. So, John had not found her body when Patsy went into Burke’s room in a panic.

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      3. As it turns out Patsy didn’t got into Burke’s room at all according to his 9 year old interview with Police. John was the one who went into his room, and allegedly told him what was going on and what to do.

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      4. Actually if you accept that he is on the spectrum, then his actions in the interview seem typical and expected for someone on the spectrum. Do you have much experience with those on the spectrum?

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      5. When I saw the interview of 11-year-old Burke (it is my understanding that it was conducted in 1998), he said that his mother had come into his room first, saying “Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh,” etc. Afterwards, John entered apparently only to turn off the light and did not notice that Burke was awake. I thought that Patsy was probably frantically searching for Jon Benet after discovering her empty bed, and John did not realize that Burke had already been awakened by Patsy’s entrance and just turned off the light to avoid having it wake him. Burke said that he was able to hear some of his parents’ discussion while lying in bed after being awakened, which was John suggesting that they call the police. He said that he did not get up because he felt that he should not interrupt.

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      6. Several things struck me after watching the CBS series. When Burke is interviewed he seems to not ever care at all about losing his little sister. He says nonchalantly Im just going on with my life. I just play my video games. Then later on when older,he had a real bratty disinterested effect. He basically doesnt give a shit. Until he sees the bowl of pinneapple. Hes dumbfounded and speechless. That is the smoking gun. It might as well been a picture of her corpse. Something went on with pinneapple that night. I also think there’s a huge difference in children who are sensitive and feel big emotions for THEMSELVES. That does not necesarily translate to feeling them for others. In fact I would say thats a red flag and not a good thing if that the only time a person shows emotion is when they’re upset about what somebody did to them, but are emotionless about anyone else’s pain.

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    3. Agreed Linda. They have consistently indicated her father found her several hours later (in the afternoon) after friends and police. To question why the mother looked in Burke’s room is kind of silly. I would have been more suspicious if the mother had NOT looked in her brothers room when initially searching for his sister. Do I believe they knew where she was, of course. But this article is confusing the facts. Fact being they did not find her until afternoon, so to point out Patsy going into Burke’s room as this big “ah-ha” moment of suspicion is moot.

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      1. Burke told Dr. Phil his mother came into his room and when he was 9 he said to the investigator that his mother did not come into his room. It was his father who did and who told him what was going on and what to do.Police who wre on the scene found it strange that he never came out of his room.

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    4. Linda no one is blaming anyone! Questions are being asked as their behavior seemed odd. And FYI not that I am accusing Burke but your logic is very poor.If someone has autism or is on the spectrum, that does nto mean they couldn’t do something harmful to someone.And in an unsolved case you question EVERYONE!

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      1. Yes, but people are judging his smile and behavior by saying he is “creepy” and insinuating that it is an indication of his guilt. Not all people react the same. He was 9! How does anyone know how they would have reacted to such tragedy when they were 9? And how does anyone know how they would have turned out in his situation, his family setting after losing his half sister when he was 5, Jon Benet when he was 9 and then his mother when he was 19 and for most of those years he and his parents were under suspicion by authorities, the media and the public. Of course being autistic doesn’t mean he wouldn’t hurt someone but nothing was found to indicate that he had anything to do with the killing. Talking about and trying to analyze his smile, his awkwardness doesn’t help anything or prove anything.

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      2. I think that clearly Burke is on the spectrum, my sister is and will smile when speaking of death, she can not regulate emotions or show typical emotions. One other feature of those on the spectrum is they do not lie, it is vitually impossible for them to do so, the would prefer not to answer rather than to lie. I think in regards to what Burke said about that moring was that his mother came into the room, looking for JB, but not actually speaking to Burke. After this a police officer came into the room with a flashlight also not speaking to him, and then and only then did his father come in and speak to him and explain that that his sister was “in heaven”. His report that his father was the first to speak to him is actually correct.

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      3. I totally agree Dr. Glass. Everyone is a suspect when a child who has “gone missing” suddenly appears in dead in the basement of their own home. I don’t think you are blaming Burke, but you are asking questions that I know are lingering in my mind. After the interview yesterday, more and more red flags jumped out at me. Not only his demeanor bothered me, but as you have said the contradictions of what happened on that morning. Please do not say that “it was twenty years ago and he could have forgotten”. When something traumatic happens in your life you normally don’t forget it.

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      4. They didn’t find JonBenet until around 1pm therefore when waking and sending Burke to a friends may have been John. Why weigh in on this case Dr Glass if you don’t have the case history ccorrect in the first place? At least the history the inept detectives leaked as false facts…

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    5. I am watching the interview now on TV and the first thing I thought of when I saw his smile and his answering the question is that he is on the autistic spectrum.

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      1. I have 2 autistic grandsons. 1 is 9 and the other is 3 and I think that Burke is probably autistic. That is how I perceived him from the interview. I do not believe he had anything to do with his sisters death. He has had to deal with a lot throughout the years I’m sure.

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    6. Because a person is autistic does not mean that they are not capable of killing another living thing (animal or human). They may not know that is wrong, that they hurt others or the ramifications of their actions. But they are humanly capable.

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      1. I think some are just trying to say smiling or certain body language that would point to guilt in the average person is normal for those on the spectrum- the awkward smiles, the nervous hand wringing, eyes all over the place… normal for autism spectrum

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      2. I know ppl are different but i think everything in this case is odd. I know if i were frantic in my home my kids would be up and out of bed wondering what was going on,he didn’t get up to see what the problem was but at some point during the night went downstairs with a flashlight to put a toy together. why didn’t he just turn on the lights,i wonder if he would have been in trouble for being up,why didn’t Dr.Phil ask these question. And then there is the Pineapple mystery,
        he doesn’t remember drinking tea while his sister ate pineapple knowing that’s the last time you will ever see her alive,not to mention his finger prints were on the glass of tea sitting on the table. Did Jonbenet hear Burke get up and decide to get up also, thinking maybe it was Santa while he was going to put a toy together. Lots of unanswered questions…..

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      3. Yes, there are lots of unanswered questions….to which we have no right to the answers. The lives of other people are not our business. People who have suffered such a tragedy do not need to answer to us.

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      4. And because a 9 year old child may be autistic does not mean that he IS a killer either. That seems to be the consensus; that being autistic (if this is so) and therefore having poor social skills means that he IS more likely to be the killer.

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      5. …and because a person is on the autistic spectrum also does not mean he or she is more likely to commit murder….

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    7. I think he has aspergers syndrome, poor guy, he reminds me of my son with his demeanor. My son has aspergers syndrome and would have reacted this way to. Being questioned under pressure.

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      1. I have to agree with you, when my son was young he would smile when accused of anything even if he didn’t do it, nervousness, discomfort and he smiles. People on the spectrum don’t react like we would, I know that for a fact after being a part of my sons therapy when he was little and watching the other children, to this day he grins when upset, and will cry

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    8. I agree..vile is even too nice a word for it…Dr. Phil has no bounds as far as doing ANY story for ratings and financial gain. These people ( without even realizing it ) “smile” with their eyes and even more so Burke with his mouth…i feel it is nervous “tick” with him. When this first happened i too was brainwashed because of the media and consequent “smiling eyes”… what a shame for them.. AND this poor little girl NOT being able to rest in peace.. I think it’s time everyone looks for something else to gossip about. Maybe why Dr. Phil has a strong need to be sooooo important somewhat like a candidate that seems to know it all!!!!!!!!!!!

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    9. Linda, I’m not one to blame this young man because I don’t think there is sufficient evidence. What I do know for a fact is that his smiling was inappropriate. That’s doesn’t mean he’s guilty but that doesn’t mean he’s innocent either. I’m not sure what disorder he might have but I know that’s not normal behavior. He doesn’t answer questions with any feeling. My own brother shows more emotion for me and I’m still alive; when I was a child if I was sick he cared for me. He loves me and expresses it. Burke almost doesn’t seem to care or wonder who killed his sister. His behavior is not socially normal. His mannerisms and responses are awkward to say the least. I love my family deeply and I’m an emotional being so it’s hard for me to look at this objectively. He appears cold and nonchalant but I understand this is his personality. I’m just saying it’s not typical behavior when speaking of a loved one who was violently murdered. The author of this blog is absolutely right. It made me feel uncomfortable how often he smiled when speaking of the about the details. It felt wrong to watch that smile on his face when listening to the context of the conversation. I felt it was disturbing.

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      1. Also, in one of the interviews as a child Burke is asked about secrets. He says yes I know what secrets are. He’s asked if he has any? He replied yes I do have secrets but I’m sure not telling YOU what they are. He says it very haughty like and like he’s superiour. I believe that punches a hole in the theory he has autism and is unable to tell lies or keep secrets. He seems FULLY capeable of keeping a family secret and perpetuating a lie. And happy to do so.

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    10. My partner is autistic , her brother is without a doubt . This is not being shy , showing with no feeling how she could have been killed , and saying I continue my life again with no feeling , not awaring the weight of his words. He already injured his sister before in the head . He was the older brother , and even if he was the younger child (better for an autistic more attention) , the jealousy about time for pageants would have been.

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    11. I think the good doctor just wrote down a stream of consciousness. An inner dialogue that should’ve remained that way. “Did he do it?” “Well, DNA evidence suggests otherwise.”, “He’s creepy”, “Is he mentally ill? “He might have Asperger’s…” “Gosh, I wonder what Dr. Phil thinks.”
      Everyone knows that playing video games and being disengaged is a sign of mental disorder, right? Never mind that the average person will text/net surf and ignore the people around them. Mental illness doesn’t qualify a person as dangerous. I’d say that if the young man does indeed have a condition that causes him to respond in unexpected ways, this public musing is essentially twisting the knife on a disabled person who undoubtedly had a rough childhood. And let us not forget the gratuitous mention of being “consulted” to review Burke’s drawings. One would think that if the boy did indeed have a mental illness it would’ve been disclosed at the consultation being that information would’ve been relevant.

      This article is an example of irresponsible conduct by someone who’s supposed to be a professional.

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      1. Nothing irresponsible here. Questions are asked. NO accusations are made.No one here accused Burke of anything. You don’t know if he has a condition or not as it is irresponsible. of YOU to say he is mentally disturbed and has a condition. And it is not gratuitous to mention that I was indeeed consulted about his drawings back in the day.

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  2. Don’t you think the police just might know more than the public’s opinion? Perhaps his smile is a normal human gesture when recalling his deceased mother. Why assume he was jealous of his sisters attention? He may have been darn glad to not have had to “be the one in those silly competitions?” As if it’s not sad enough…the public wants to cast awful assumptions on a young man who lived a heartbreaking childhood. That’s like asking why you would have such a huge smile and a huge picture of yourself in such an article? (smh)

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    1. No. Sometimes the public has more ot just as much insight as the police as we are all human.In fact it is much like your business in finding lost and missing people. I could ask you the same thing- why don’t you just rely on the police? Why do you make your services available to the public? And no his smile is not a normal gesture in remembering his deceased mother. As far as jealousy goes, he was put n the back burner while his sister got loads of attention. You can see his unhappiness inhis body language in his photos when he was a child, especially in photos when he is near his sister. He does not look happy around her.And if you know anything about sibling rivalry this is very common. When one child gets more attention from a parent, the other child is often jealous. And as far as being happy he wasn’t in the “silly” competitions, his mother patsy didn’t think they were silly as she put a lot of effort, time and money into it.Also back in th day when JonBenet was competing for titles they did not have categories for boys. Now they do, but not back then.As far as assumpions go, I believe they are more than assumptions and yes he did have a heartbreaking childhood for a myriad of reasons. An finally your ugly comment at the end as to why I would have huge smile of myself and a huge photo speaks volumes about you Ms. Cyndi Caron, My smile is due to my being happy to do a blog and happy to be able to share my knowledge with others, It is highly appropriate. And the huge photo of myself is due to the fact that my huge web designer saw fit to design it that way. So Ms. Cyndi now that you have all the answers, take your negative energy elsewhere and stop reading my blogs or looking at my photos if they disturb you so much.

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      1. The older sibling often has alot of jealousy about a younger sibling anyways, without beauty pagents because they have to share the parents now. Also, when the younger sibling recieves alot of positive attention for their looks it makes it way,worse I think. I had a couple of nephews where that was such an issue my older sister could not trust her older son unsupervised with his baby brother for a second and had to lock him in the bathroom with her when she showered. The older brother hurt that brother many times growing up and they were exhausting to babysit.

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      2. Lillian, I know that you know that in most investigations that the police do know more than the general public. Unless one is involved in the investigation, it becomes merely speculation and theories by the public. Yes, we rely on the police investigators in our work and yes we may find information that needs conveyed to them. Our services are for families of missing to provide support, guidance and assistance. However, we don’t blog cases and ask for public opinion…we ask for public help to bring awareness. You missed my point in my comment. I was merely trying to show that you are assuming his guilt by his smile, whereas, one can ask why you have a huge smile on this blog topic? As a body language specialist, you absolutely do need to have a keen insight in recognizing those who display inappropriate social reactions, to distinguish those who are sociopathic from those with ASD disorders. Just too much assumptions regarding his childhood and what he was feeling about his little sister. Until solid evidence suggests otherwise, one shouldn’t publicly insinuate someone may be involved in the killing of another…I guess it’s a do unto others kind of thing. Discussing known public case details is one thing, but….

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      3. I have been studying this case for 20 years and there has always been concern about Burke and Patsy. I am not accusing anyone and never have. I just make observations based on my expertise as a body language expert. I am not qualified to speak of Asperger’s Syndrome or Autism in relation to the boy. He needs a complete battery of tests before any diagnosis is made. As a 9 year old year old he seemed very sociable and engaging and seemed like he had more appropriate reactions minus a few like his smiling when hs mother was in aguish, And don’t assume anything when it comes to me because I am completely open and straightforward so if I was accusing Burke I would say so and I am not and have never accused him. I merely point out issues that I see based on my 30 years of work as a body language expert. and please get off your self righteous high horse and stop telling everyone to not insinuate someone is involved in a killing of another as this is what people do. They are upset and frustrated that a beautiful child was killed and there is no resolution so they are trying to look at all aspects of it. And the fact that you are even reading this blog and commenting speaks volumes, Don’t lecture me or my readers about what to do when they are expressing their thoughts about what could have happened to this child.if this blog upsets you so much, don’t read it as there are millions of others.

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      4. I do agree the ransom letter has always bothered me? Why leave a ransom letter when the child was deceased and would be found? And 3 pages? However, I also have to support the evidence and DNA, the fact not matched to the family or friends, really points to an outsider. Like you, I hate the use of the word “Aspy”…,My son, who has Asperger’s, had friends of the same and I would cringe when their parents mentioned an “Aspy meet” coming up.

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      5. And just your statement that the ransom letter bothers you shows just how hypocritical you are, You just wrote a whole message admonishing me and my readers for having concerns about things which seem hinky to them and yet you now do the same thing and say the ransom letter seems hinkey to you, It shows me that you are just being contentious for contentious sakes and that is not welcome here. While I welcome open discussion and exchanges of ideas I do not welcome haters which you seem to have shown.

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      6. I would honestly just ignore commenters like Cyndi, Ccaron, and Robin, I’m fine with people bringing their own personal beliefs into the conversation, but not when it causes them to criticize others for having an opinion on a subject. Especially when they themselves are voicing their own “public opinion” and especially when it entails attacking you personally. I know you’re just providing insights based on your own experience and I appreciate that you freely allow us to learn from you.

        Countless authorities on the case have remarked how odd certain reactions are from the Ramsey family while also not pointing fingers towards their guilt, there’s nothing wrong with pointing out when something seems out of the ordinary.

        I try to approach these cases with an open mind and not look for something to confirm my beliefs. I have no idea who actually killed JonBenet but the evidence seems to point to the situation not being as straight-forward as it was initially presented and detectives and LEO who witnessed this unfolding first-hand have confirmed that there were multiple instances where their jobs were made more difficult than normal because of outside circumstances.

        Speaking only for myself, I do find it odd the lack of vigor that the Ramsey’s showed in wanting to cooperate with the police to find the killer, were I in that situation I would do everything in my power to aid in an investigation that could rightfully punish the person who did something like that to my daughter to my dying day. And yet the Ramsey’s fought police at every turn and seem more concerned with moving on with their lives than utilizing any remaining evidence to possibly catch the killer, who could still be free to prey on another victim even to this day.

        But then again, most of the people who take such umbrage with personal opinion’s on this case also vehemently defend the Ramsey’s with not much more than the thought that because they personally could never imagine doing something like that to their loved one that no one else possibly could either, which in investigations is a folly much more than dutifully examining every single person so matter how horrible the idea might be that they could be the killer.

        As for “public opinion” it’s a right to free speech that we be allowed to voice our own thoughts, theories, and opinions on this case. Some people think there pedophilia rings involved and while I do not agree with that assessment I also don’t criticize those people for having those opinions because they have a right to them.

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    2. If you read all available books/articles on this case, you can see MANY red flags with Burke. I made up my mind years ago that if he were involved, her death (At least by his hand) was unintentional. What did disturb me the most was in the first few minutes, a memory of a “home tour” was discussed. Actually, by the Ramsey’s own words, the tour was the year before. What DID happen that Holiday season was a party held in the Ramsey’s home. A 911 call was placed from inside, and no one claims to be able to “figure out” who made it. Either Burke “mis-remembered” or chose not to speak about that evening….

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      1. Dr. Liilian Glass, My goodness, you are very rude to those who write on your blog….such as CC Caron. She doesn’t deserve that. t little decorum is in order. There is no reason to lash out at others.
        I, for one, am on this blog not to discuss the innocence or guilt of this grieving family…because they have been proven innocent without a shadow of a doubt. I was hoping to add another angle and that is for readers to show some empathy and compassion for them and to stop sowing seeds of doubt in the minds of readers.
        I am probably in the wrong place here because the lives of movie stars or people in the media are not of any interest to me whatsoever. As a matter of fact, when those gossip shows come on after the news, I change channels as fast as possible. I find it in bad taste and voyeuristic to talk about the lives of others. To me it goes along with rubber-necking as one drives past an accident scene. It’s a sordid, human impulse we should all control.
        Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. The words are attributed to social activist and former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt.

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      2. Robin Michetti, it is not rude at all. I am responding to CC Carson’s personal attacks which I certainly don’t deserve and which my readers do not deserve.Rude is her personal attack on me and my readers. There will always be doubt in the case because it is just too odd and we will never know exactly what happened to precious JonBenet. DNA or no DNA the odd behavior leads one to question the family and always will. Since touch DNA was done back in the day and is not as sophisticated as it is now many feel that the DNA could have been there from someone touching it from manufacture to purchasing it. I don’t know much about that and I am not a DNA expert so I will let the scientists discuss and debate that, not me as I am here to discuss human behavior as my expertise.

        And FYI in this blog I cover everyone in the media including criminal cases, movie stars, athletes, politicians, world leaders,and anyone who makes national and international airwaves including Burke Ramsey. This blog is not about gossip as it helps educate people as to what to look for in terms of a person’s body language so that they can better read people on their own. I do it for free and as a service to people who have remarked that it has helped them in their own lives to better read signals and tells in terms of verbal and nonverbal cues.

        I have been in this field for over 30 years and I write this blog out of the love in my heart and passion for what I do. I will not allow anyone to degrade me, to bully me or my readers. I welcome all kinds of opinions that differ but I will not allow personal attacks like the one given where one is attacking me for not emphatically stating Burke Ramsey has Aspergers or Autism. While we may recognize signs based on what we have seen in the media, unless Burke has a formal diagnosis by a qualified individual in that field I will not diagnose him. He seemed very engaging at age 9 even more than he was at 29 so I really cannot speak to what is wrong with him in that regard. I only know that today his behavior proves odd in some instances and revealing in others.

        While I respect that you may not like this blog and it is not for you, your last TOXIC statement says it all insinuating that I do not have a great mind because I discuss people as you quote Eleanor Roosevelt who was a very controversial figure back in the day and still remains to some to this day.She was a direct blood relative of FDR and he was forced into marriage with her and had an affair with another woman decades.

        So here you are hyocricially quoting people when you state that you don’t discuss people. FYI we live in a world of people and interact with people so we must know about people. As a human behavior expert, I discuss people. if you want to discuss political events or social events you need to go to another blog as there are millions of others out there. And your hypocrisy amazes me. You say you are not interested in people and avoid even looking at carr accidents and rubbernecking yet you have such a keen interest in one of the most gruesome cases in history, the JonBenet Ramsey case where you took the time to rubberneck here by commenting on the case. If what you say is true about yourself you should not even be concerned about the case. You are absolutely correct, you do not belong here Robin.

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    3. Why did the parents lie about owning the flashlight? JR son from first marriage said he he gave them one for a gift or one just like it. The Ramsey’s claimed they never had a flashlight like that.

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      1. Who is John Mark Carr? Is he a suspect? This James Allen Selby confessed to the murder. Case closed.

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    4. The police were corrupted in this case ..the family had big money to cover up.
      The mother father and son know what happened to that child. They went and outwardly blamed ppl that had nothing to do.with anything. Maybe it was a tragic accident that was covered up.
      .I truly doubt from the evidence that there really was an intruder..

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  3. I don’t think anyone will ever know what really happened. I tend to believe that all three family members knew more than they told the police. The behavior of John and Patsy following JonBenet’s death is extremely disturbing. If someone you love has died this horrific death, you would (at least you would hope that you would) do anything and everything the police asked you to do to solve the case.

    I feel very sorry for the brother. I can’t imagine how tough his life has been for all these years.
    I have no idea why on earth he would want to go on tv at this point. Maybe he just wants to tell the world his side. He has certainly been a victim as well.

    I will never be able to get past the uncooperative behavior of John and Patsy toward the police. As far as following the advice of their lawyers, they should have disregarded it.

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    1. I don’t agree that they should have ignored their lawyers. If the lawyers had been tipped off as they said that the police were completely going after them and not looking elsewhere they were smart to have not given them anything to take them down. Even people today, 20 years later, are suspicious of them when nothing was concrete against them. Matter of fact there was plenty that pointed elsewhere. John and Patsy Ramsey were not the first parents to be targeted by police as suspects when they were in fact innocent and they won’t be the last. I won’t be so bold to say how I would react or what exactly I would do. Police have been known to badger suspects until they confess under duress when they didn’t do it.

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      1. There lawyers didn’t tell them to go on CNN and those of us in the law enforcement community take offense to always being portrayed as the “bad guys”. We also have a pretty good handle on how MOST people act in certain situations. They did not act like MOST people.

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      2. I disagree that the police investigators were only targeting the Ramseys. I have read books written by two of the investigators on this case, and am currently reading Perfect Murder Perfect Town by Lawrence Schiller. The books go into every detail you can possibly imagine on the suspects they investigated. They spent countless hours interviewing people all over the country, as well as taking hair and blood samples from them to be analyzed. It was mind boggling how much was put into this case!

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    2. So true,if it were my child there would be NO doubt i would have done anything & everything the police ask…… I wouldn’t be able to function and would be broken down mentally to the point i wouldn’t want to live anymore…..

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    3. Regarding your comment: why would he want to do this interview now. He’s being paid. He and his father for these interviews. I am assuming that number is in the 7 figures. Also, that’s why there’s so many more adverts during the show than normal. It’s all about the $$$.

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      1. Tiffany, the reason for all of these sudden interviews, TV specials, etc., is because this year marks the 20 year anniversary of JonBenet’s death. After all this time, the case is still unsolved (or so we’re told) and with Jon and Burke being 20 years older, all of the current media buzz is to reflect back on the past, to see what life has been like for the past two decades and to update us on any current breakthroughs in the case. But, yes, surely they’re getting paid.

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  4. If Patsy and John had “disregarded the advice of their lawyers” they would have been railroaded by the ignorant, poorly trained police and detectives who botched the case and their “friends” who so gleefully turned on them. Anyone can see in the interviews of the Ramsey’s they were dazed and grief stricken. They protected Burke, which was their duty as well. They lost status, money, etc. along with their precious daughter and truly suffered. This compelling case is most disturbing for a variety of reasons. Obviously Burke is inappropriate. I think the interview was ill advised but after the childhood he endured (thanks to the runaway media and every guilty tabloid purchaser, including this writer sadly) who really expected him to be perfectly well adjusted? He looks very much like his mother and his smile is gleeful and sly looking. His condition (if any) could well cause this. We can’t know his diagnosis if any and he comes across as a strange young man and but that certainly does not denote guilt. The Ramseys were not parents of the year or typical in their responses either. Neither observation denotes guilt. I do think the public can be excused for their curiosity about Burke after all these years.

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  5. I’m surprised Burke’s lawyer let him do this. Did he not watch it after it was taped? If Burke is autistic it would have been better to have maybe written a book or something than to do a video interview. I don’t think this is going to help him in any way with public opinion. He is already contradicting in the teasers what his parents have said regarding some things about the morning of the murder. This is not making his family look good, and the show has not even aired yet.

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    1. Tell me about it. Dr. Glass is spot-on and actually uses LOGIC instead of ad hominem attacks and the most fragile straw men. You don’t even need science in this case to know that this kid is SMART; maybe not sociopathic but possibly narcissistic. As for everyone who accuses Dr. Glass’s comments as purely speculative, there are several free dictionaries online. Use one.

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  6. I have to say I agree with Lillian’s assessment on Burke. The baseball bat and flashlight that she was bludgeoned with were Burke’s, he admits to leaving them outside. The lead investigator on the case, who has since retired, said that the DNA evidence of the unidentified male could have been anyone who was permitted in the room with her after she had been killed, not the actual murderer. They had many people in their home after the 911 call. The poorly maintained crime scene and police errors saved the parents and Burke from certain prosecution. In crimes of passion, jealousy is the #1 motive and I think Burke killed her for the reasons Lillian states and Patsy and John Ramsey tried covering it up with that letter and hostage story that makes zero sense.

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    1. How would some random person in the room get their dna under her fingernails and also get their dna mixed with her blood on the inside of her underwear and on the waistband of her pajama pants? And it is a prejudiced assumption that ” police errors saved the parents and Burke from certain prosecution.” Police error could be what caused the suspicion of them. If they had not botched things up there could have been clear evidence of their innocent even more so than the little bit of non-family unknown dna they found. Sibling rivalry is normal as Lillian stated but rarely does a 9 yr old kill his 6 yr old sibling because of jealousy. Very rare.

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      1. If the stranger DNA was on her clothes (waistband, underwear) and it was “touch DNA” why would there be no DNA from the family. She lived with them was touched by them and John Ramsey carried her up from the basement. Of course their DNA was on her clothing and that does not make them guilty but the media only talks about someone else’s DNA because they want to clear the family. That proves the whole DNA thing is a lie and a farce.

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  7. As an educator who has worked with children on the spectrum, I truly believe he has high functioning autism. I see a scared young man. I believe he does know more than he is telling however. I have studied everything available and I don’t believe he did it but I believe he knows who did. I get the feeling he was probably up with jonbenét when she was taken by someone or he saw something. I have always believed that one of the “family friends” killed her. I think he was threatened by the powerful family friend. I’ve also reviewed interviews of him as a child and it is clear to me he is on the spectrum and is easily scared, confused and nervous. He also lacks the social cues. He is somewhat emotionally disconnected. I believe he probably feels a little guilt that he didn’t do something or say something but he was threatened and probably feels it’s too as well and that’s why he is talking, guilt.

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    1. Thank you for sharing your thoughts as I appreciate your perspective. When he was interviewed at age 9 he appeared to have more social cues but perhaps through all of this trauma he didn’t develop emotionally. Also, What do you think about Patsy’s ransom letter being so specific and having many of her handwriting characteristics in it?

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      1. I’m not convinced she wrote the ransom letter. I do not believe she was capible of during such horrific things to her own child. In my opinion she was a mature woman who wanted a daughter for a long time and loved her. She was her pride and joy. She wasn’t prone to rash decisions snd fits of rage or even physical violence. She did not fit the profile of a psychopath.

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      2. No one said she was a psychopath.mybe the death was an accident and staged to look like a violent act. And whether or not youbelieve she was capable of writing the letters a myriad of handwriting experts many of whom are qualidied by various courts across the country feel it was Patsy’s writing.

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      3. I think Pasty wrote the Ransom letter,i believe it was an accident & was staged…… i think Burke was up,not sure how the puzzle fits into place and that includes the mystery of the pineapple & glass of tea with Burke’s fingerprints on it….. I wonder if the police examined the flashlight Burke used as he said in the interview with Dr.Phil while using it to go down stairs to put a toy together….. i think Pasty lied about the pineapple in an interview saying she didn’t know where the pineapple came from & there was no way Jonbenet would have had access to pineapple. And then it makes you think,how many children are murdered by an intruder during the Christmas Holidays,i would think knowing usually family is in from out of town,kids stay up late playing with toys,family members staying up late visiting,going to the kitchen late at night eating leftovers & desserts,wouldn’t that be a risk if you were planning to murder someone,taking a chance on someone being up & getting caught……

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    2. Thank you, Elizabeth, I agree with your comment about him having HFA. As the mother of two sons, one Aspergers and one High Functioning Autism, I would bet anything that this young man has ASD on some level. I was so uncomfortable watching because I could see my sons, one more so than the other, looking the same way while being questioned. I can understand how it can come across as deception to those who are not aquainted with or who have never spent a great deal of time with anyone on the spectrum. The minute we saw him in the interview with Dr. Phil and the interview of him as a child, my husband and I looked at each other and said, yes, he’s an ASD kid! Our oldest one is a few years younger than Burke and was not diagnosed as a child because not as much was recognized about it then. These kids can come across as not having feelings for others, but it isn’t true. My oldest one often comes across as cold and uncaring, but that isn’t a true picture, he is actually very tenderhearted, sensitive, and easily hurt/wounded when people are mean to him. I see that same nature in Burke. They also are very literal, do not read between the lines, and do not throw in a lot of details. Most answers are cut and dry. Trying to have a conversation with my oldest son is almost like an interrogation, lol. I ask questions to try to talk with him, but he replies with one or two word answers. Unless it is their “thing” of interest, and then they will talk endlessly about that one subject. Their intelligence is what throws people off, but their EQ (emotional quotient) is rarely on the same level as their IQ. The possibility of being threatened is also plausible. My oldest son was bullied for 3 years in High School and never said a word about it until one day it all came out. These kids are different, their brains process information differently, you can throw your typical child rearing books out the window along with your body language reading books, when it comes to kids/adults on the spectrum. I believe Burke is totally innocent.

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      1. You’d have to be a psychopath to stage such a thing ! Sexual assult, strangulation and more to your OWN child ? People normally would just call 911. That police department is so incompetent it’s embarassing. She could have even lied about how she got hurt, it happens all the time but to stage something like that now way. Opinions from experts vary, even from the handwriting experts. I have a lot of respect for your work on other cases Dr Lillian Glass and I’ve been a fan since the Peterson case but I just have to disagree with you on this case.

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  8. I am not a detective but all points to the family. It may have been the brother. Whether was premeditated or at heat of the moment. Whether it was because he was angry for some reason or just some kind of mental disorder. Think of the parents. If it really was their son, it must have been horrible to find your daughter killed by your son. They covered it all up, they couldn’t face losing both their children in my night. I can’t say that I will do the same or not, but as a parent what would you do. It is just horrible.

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      1. DNA alone doesn’t prove that there was a Latin man in the house that night. The technology isn’t there yet to time stamp it , only to clear it. Likewise the fact that the Ramseys were “cleared” ( in the opinion of Mary Lacey anyway ) of any wrong doing doesn’t mean they’re innocent. It just means DNA can be used to prove they’re not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That’s different.
        From what I can recall, her body had traces of DNA from 4 or 5 non related individuals.

        I also want to say that I really enjoy your body language blogs Dr. It’s all very fascinating.

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      2. I have read that there was so little DNA they couldn’t even use it in the beginning. It wasn’t until several years later that they could tell it was male DNA and came from saliva. Now they are able to tell it was a male of Latin descent. It makes me doubt this new DNA is even relevant because if this “unknown intruder” did do all these horrific acts to JonBenet would there not have been a lot more DNA than just trace amounts? This man (the killer) obviously had lots of contact with her.

        I’ve also read that since the DNA was determined to be saliva, it could have been acquired during the manufacture of the underwear. A worker could have sneezed and droplets got on the material or wiped his mouth with his hand and transferred the saliva to the underwear while handling it. This seems much more plausible to me since the DNA found was in such a small quantity.

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      3. Just think…a gardener would have noticed the broken window and he could have returned that night and climbed in the window…and the rest is too horrible to even imagine.

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    1. @Robin Michetti I don’t know where to begin. You truly believe a day laborer/landscaper of Latin decent would simply ‘notice’ a broken window while on the job and then hatch this absolutely insane plan to kidnap a young child for an incredibly specific amount of money (John’s exact Christmas bonus) there was no reason for them to know about, bludgeon said child at some point, decide to sexually violate said child despite the initial motivation being money, include words like ‘attache’ in an absurdly long and convoluted ransom letter, etc. etc. again, because of a broken window, and for all intents and purposes — go from gainful employment to kidnapper, murderer, and child rapist?

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      1. @ROBIN MICHETTI: GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT THEN MAYBE PEOPLE WOULDN’T ATTACK POOR YOU.

        THE RAMSEYS HAVE NEVER BEEN “PROVEN INNOCENT BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.”

        This was simply one remark I caught in one of your posts while scrolling down. Firstly, one is never proven innocent. Secondly….forget it, it would be waste. Just get your facts straight and find a lawyer-friend to illustrate (literally) what a grand jury is, an indictment, and the legal standards associated therewith.

        Thanks and kindly shut up. No one cares, so it’s ok to read something written by a total stranger and then…..write nothing!

        Oh and actually, yes, a murder IS the public’s business. This is why criminal cases are called “The People” v. So-and-So.

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  9. Dr Glass, I have not read what your credentials are but I have found your comments concerning when this young man appears to be on the spectrum and you did not see that. If body language is your specialty I would have thought you would be more familiar with disorders of body language and what might cause someone to demonstrate an abnormal pattern. ASD is not rare, it is a very common disorder, with many more getting disagnosed in adulthood. Numbers range from 1/100 people have this to as high as 1/70 have this disorder.

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    1. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Michael…for being the voice of sanity on this inane thread. I am shocked that a “Dr” would know so little about what are glaringly obvious Asperger traits. Shame on all these people…especially, Lillian Glass. I’m appalled at the comments on here. I’m sorry I read it. I merely wanted to see if anyone else had taken notice of the fact that Burke was an Aspy. I’m losing IQ points just being on here.

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      1. Shame on you! I am appalled at YOU and shocked that YOU would expect me- a doctor who is not a specialist in the area of autism and asperger’s syndrome to weigh in with a diagnosis. I am a “Dr” of human behavior as it pertains to body language and communication patterns. I do not diagnose people’s possible disorders. One needs a comprehensive battery of tests to do so with a bonafide specialist in the area. And shame on you for calling him a pejorative term” Aspy.” If you could resort to this behavior perhaps your lost IQ points which you discuss are not the result of reading my blog but due to your ignorance. If this blog upsets you so much, there are millions out there to read and you don’t have to come here.

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      2. And shame on you as I am appalled at you for expecting me to make a diagnosis of Burke’s possible medical condition when I am not a specialist in the area of Aspergers or Autism. And if he is indeed a person with Aspergers Syndrome, how dare you call him an Aspy which is a pejorative term in my view. And if you can call someone with a disability names, then perhaps your IQ is already in trouble without reading this blog. You are no longer welcome to read or comment on my blog as I don’t want ignorant hatred on this blog site.

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      3. As a “Dr” of human behavior as it pertains to body language and communication patterns…..how do you NOT know about Asperger traits? You are absolutely correct, you are not qualified as a diagnostician…and I never said you should or could. But, as a mother to an adult son with Asperbergers, a daughter-in-law to my father-in-law, who also has Aspergers….I have extensive knowledge of the subject and I found the things you said about Burke extremely offensive and insensitive when you consider the fact that it could be (and most likely is..albeit undiagnosed) Asperger behavior. To not know, one way or the other, if he has it, and use terminology like….”odd and inappropriate”….was insulting and ignorant. You should find ways to articulate in a more sensitive way when you really don’t know if there is an underlying condition causing his unusual hand movements or smiling. That’s what I would expect a professional to do. As far as the term “Aspy” or “Aspie”…it is NOT derogatory. How dare YOU….when you don’t (by your own admission) know anything about Aspergers or the people who have it and therefore can’t possibly have a correct “view” on this term, presume that to be a disparaging remark. It is WIDELY used, affectionately, by those who have Aspergers and the people who know/love them and is in no way demeaning or rude. I could go on and on about this, but I will simply plead that you as a person who studies human behavior, educate yourself on this subject…because it is obviously relevant to the field you’re in.

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      4. Seems like you are just looking for a fight! Well “i’mnotreallyhere”, I am not here to fight with people! As a professional I refuse to diagnose someone who’s battery of tests I have not seen. So Take your fight and hate elsewhere. Since you have personal knowledge of the disorder do not expect me to have it as well. Burke’s underlying causes are not as important to me as a body language expert as reporting that his behavior was odd and he smiled a genuine smile speaking of his mother’s anguish which was quite different from his mask like smile he had throughout the interview.

        I have known many parents who had children with Asberger’s syndrome who cringe and the term and find it negative so how dare YOU!!! In fact one commenter to this blog stated that she cringes when she hears the term. There is nothing affectionate or endearing in my view about calling a child with a disorder a cute nickname for the disorder. To me it is disrespectful and demeaning. It would be like calling a child with Down Syndrome a “Downie” or a child with cancer a “cancie”. So back atach- How DARE you!
        And as far as studying and educating myself about Aspergers and Autism I have done so and have been cognizant of the rapid changes continuing to be done with the disorder in terms of diagnosis, studies done, and the possible causes for the disorder since I wrote about the subject for my oral exams during my docotoral exam in 1978. Then and now are two different worlds. What I have since discovered is that there is a lot of controversy about ALL aspects related to the disorder. There are ranges of symptoms and in order to tell anything one needs a formal diagnosis by a professional who specializes in this area, not me. Therefore I will not dare take the chance to diagnosis Burke when a. there is no formal diagnosis, b. he showed very different behaviors at the age of 9 then he did as an adult. Usually from what I understand, Asperger’s and Autism is not adult onset so I don’t know what he exhibits.

        In fact Dr. Phil didn’t call him autistic or having Aspergers. He said that with al trauma the boy went through it may have stunted his emotional growth. So fight with Dr. Phil about that, not me, I stand by my blog, what I wrote and will not put a label on someone who may or may not have the disorder. I don’t know if Burke has it and neither do you. Just becuae he may have some symptoms you recognize in your family members with the disorder does not mean he has the disorder.

        Enough said, I am done going back and forth with you. You stated your point of view and I stated mine. If you don’t what I write in like this blog, then do yourself a favor and don’t stress yourself out by reading read it.

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      1. Well Trish if you expect me to diagnose someone with Autism when I haven’t seen them professionally or tested them and when I am not an expert in the field than your expectations are off. I have 30 years of experience in the area of body language and communication, not autism.

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  10. I enjoy reading these posts as the Dr Phil site has a lot of negativity in the comment sections. Maybe the mother quickly came in his room just to make sure he was there. Maybe Burke didn’t even notice or wake up. The Dr. Phil interview annoyed me because that show could have been 15 minutes. Not a lot of info was covered.
    Based on some comments I will say a few things. Yes the police botched the crime scene but the dad should have known better than to move her body. Of course I can’t say what I would’ve done in that horrific situation. Burke was a Boy Scout and could’ve made that ligature. Not saying he did it. The pineapple thing is very fish to me though. The parents not cooperating bothered me. If I was suspected in something like this it would be horrible but I would want to be excluded asap!!! The whole thing just doesn’t add up. Why would a ransom note be written when child didn’t leave the home?

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      1. I have thought the same thing about the knot, and wondered if Burke had been a boy scout. Also, aren’t both John and Burke avid boaters, or go sailing a lot? People who are big into boating and sailing know how to tie complicated knots. I don’t know who killed jonbenet, the investigation seems to have been botched to the point that this case is probably unsolvable unless there is a confession. The whole family seems to have unusual affects, even 20 years later. Dr. Glass, I have a mother who is very histrionic, and I’m curious as to your opinion, do you think Patsy was a histrionic mother? I’m not saying that I think she did it. I truly don’t know. It also really bothers me that the date of jonbenet’s death on her tombstone was December 25. The autopsy said she died between 10pm Dec 25, and 6am Dec 26. Did they know she was dead before midnight? I don’t know. One more thing that bothered me about the dr. Phil interview. (Besides the odd smile) Phil showed Burke the last picture taken of jonbenet and Burke said, “I don’t remember her hair being that long.” I don’t know why, but that sent chills down my spine. It seemed like a weird thing to say.

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    1. Dr. Phil also said burke would answer very specifically about how the pineapple came to be. And then he didn’t say at all how the pineapple got in the bowl or in jonbenet’s stomach!! The whole interview was hyped up, and no new information came out of that interview. Except the few very short clips of Burke being interviewed as a child. Which still brought no new information to light. I think both Burke and John are avid boaters, and go sailing a lot, so they both know how to tie intricate knots like the ones found on the garrote. I don’t know who killed jonbenet. I hate to think anyone in the family did it. But I just don’t know. Nothing adds up.

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    2. Remember John Ramsey was in the Navy & they do have classes & instructions on knot tying in boot camp during the third week……

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  11. I came here to correct the ridiculous amount of inaccuracies, but I see others have done that. I’m curious what makes you so incredibly biased? I notice, even in a comment, you refer to the note as “Patsy’s ransom note”. It’s just THE ransom note. It makes me cringe to see how uneducated you are about the case, meanwhile blasting your inaccurate details and biased opinion to the Internet at large. It’s also interesting that a doctor could get so many points about the case wrong. I’m glad to see so many comments correcting your incorrect details, and also noticing and correcting your biased comments.

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    1. I have looked at this case for 20 years as there has been conflicting evidence and reports throughout the years. I am not incredibly biased Ellen Perry. I just report what I observe and if that is biased to you so be it. Countless handwriting experts throughout the years on various occasions have determined that the way certain letters were constructed were identical to patsy’s. It was also Patsy’s stationary which was not found anywhere else but suspiciously under her telephone. Also the detailing inthe note seemed to point the finger to Patsy as who else would have known John just got a $118,000 raise. So the amount was way to specific for a random kidnapper. Also why was a note written if her body was in the home. She wasn’t taken anywhere except to the basement. So many believed throughout the years it was contrived and that most likely patsy wrote the letter to either protect herself or Burke.
      And maybe your cringing is due to your own bias and willing to look at what is and not what you want it to be.

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      1. Dr Glass, stick to your guns! You are indeed on the right trail! I have thought from early on until the present that he did it, & the parents covered for him! Patsy NO DOUBT wrote that ransom note! Sometimes ppl refuse to see what is right in front of them….. This is one of those cases…. Don’t let ppl and pressure keep you from seeing what your gut tells you is right. There are lots of ppl who agree with you!

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      2. Let us not forget the ‘famous’ , albeit ‘redundant’ line used in both the Ransom Letter & Christmas Card …

        “And hence”

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      3. I’m getting annoyed with all the arm chair autism diagnosis. So now , any time someone seems to not have empathy or show emotion,, they have autism? It’s like autism is the go to one size fits all for people and strange behaviour now. Do autistic people never commit acts of violence? And now people feel they can just look at someone and tell they have autism or aspergers. Everyone that know someone with it, now goes around diagnosing it.

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    2. I can’t help but be reminded of the ‘saying’ here: “When you point the finger at one, keep in mind there are THREE pointing back at you!”
      And with Life being one huge ‘Mirror’ . . .
      Seems you have some serious ‘issues’ regarding your own ‘Self’, Ms. Perry!

      I further find, what truly is RIDICULOUS … Is your inherent ‘need’ to lump together & then MASS CRITICIZE – The comments left by everyone else!
      Unreal¡!

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    3. BTW – Dr. Glass has NEVER shown signs of Bias in her work …
      And what makes me ‘cringe’ – Is you did NOTHING that you proposed to do!
      Minus sling mud & throw Insult after Insult to Dr. Glass!
      I hope that brought you, whatever it is you needed to feel better about yourself!

      As for myself & on behalf of many others …
      Well done, Dr. Glass!
      Keep up the GREAT Work!

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  12. after watching this .. i am not convinced that he does not have some type of low autism.. my son has ASPERGERS disorder and the mannerisms Burke displayed I have seen over and over with my son.. I dont believe he had anything to do with her murder. and those of you who think his behavior was creepy and wierd , check out Aspergers syndrome,, people with this have a tendency to be occupied with there own thoughts and things they are interested in,, as a child he didnt show much sensitivity or seemed to be to bothered with all the murder hype.. HE was a kid.. I think people are over reacting when it comes to him. and are trying to find fault with his behavior.. It is a terrible terrible tragedy what happened to this little girl. but i do not think her brother had anything to do with it.

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    1. Kren what do you think about Burke’s baseball bat being at the crime scene and questions about him knowing how to make a garrote as a Boy Scout? Many have said that he may have been jealous of his sister for all the attention the mom gave her as a possible motive and have said Patsey wrote the ransom note to protect Burke?

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  13. A red flag to me when watching Dr Phil was when Burke said he woke up and went downstairs because there was a toy that he wanted to play with! I always thought he was in his bed all night! Perhaps His sister heard him go downstairs and wanted to play with his toy and he got mad as young children do. Just a thought.

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  14. I am a long time friend of Burke’s, and I have always suspected he might have Asperger’s syndrome .

    My brother has aspergers as well, so I’m very well acquainted it.

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    1. I mean he smiled the whole time except once when he was watching video of him talking to psychologist. Is this normal for him to smile all the time??

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  15. I have thought since day 1 that he did it….. Now he SMILES while recounting his baby sister’a BRUTAL & HORRIFIC murder????? Something is wrong!
    I think Patsy & John covered for him which is why the mom wrote the ransom note. Ppl who refuse to acknowledge that Patsy wrote it, are self decieved.
    It makes me sick when ppl keep saying it makes THEM sick for Burke to be accused. God forgive me if I am incorrect on it, but it just always seemed to me that he did it.

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  16. How can you “wonder” if Burke is in the Spectrum? This angers me. You need continuing education ASAP. There is no excuse for someone with the abbreviation Dr. in front of their name to not understand and recognize this disorder.

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    1. Calvin Luoise, Unless someone has had formal testing with a licensed professional who has diagnosed his condition, one can only “wonder” if Burke is on the Spectrum. This shouldn’t anger you. What should anger you would be if someone who was not a specialist in the area of autism such as myself made a diagnosis of this young man. And while I do indeed have a “Dr.” in front of my name it is not in the area or specialty of autism. I am a body language and communication expert who uses these tools to study and analyse human behavior.

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  17. Was Burke a boy scout? That could explain the complicated knot. Also, aren’t Burke and John both very experienced in boating and sailing? That could also explain the knot on the garrote. I’m not saying either one did it. But the whole family seems to have bizarre affects. Patsy seems like she was a very histrionic mother, and mom’s like that can very easily lose their temper and accidentally hurt a small child, for something like say, the bed wetting that jonbenet had evidently been having issues with. Also, during the dr phil interview, phil showed Burke the last photo ever taken of jonbenet, and Burke said he didn’t remember her hair being that long. I don’t know why, but that sent a chill down my spine. Just seemed like a weird to say. I’m not saying I think he killed her. I honestly think that the investigation was so botched, that I don’t think this case will ever be solved. Unless someone confesses. But even if someone does confess, I’m not confident in the evidence, because it’s all so contaminated, from the horribly botched investigation!

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  18. I am a special education teacher that has worked for years with aspergers and autism. Spectrum disorders also run in my family. He appears to me to have aspergers. People with spectrum disorders often display facial expressions that seem very inappropriate for the situation. I’ve known students to laugh when “typical” students would cry. It’s not an expression of myth but just a manifestation of their disability. As far as the smile appearing to reach his eyes, they are a brilliant light blue that reflect light and appear to twinkle with the smile.

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    1. I respect your expertise and experience in working with autistic children.With regard to the mask like smile which he had throughout the interview as his base line s far as body language is concerned, the most interesting factor is when the apples of his cheeks as well as his eyes engaged in an even larger smile when speaking of his mother’s agony. What was also interesting is that he not only did it when he was 9, but 20 years later at 29.

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  19. I think that it is vulgar and voyeuristic to pry into these poor people’s lives. None of it is our business. They have suffered enough just losing a child…but then to have suspicion and accusations hurled at them for years must have been unbearable. Undoubtedly the stress provoked the cancer that killed the mother. I did not like seeing this brought up by Dr. Phil on national television. Poor Burke, who is a sweet, young man whose nervous response is to smile or who suffers from Asperger’s or whatever, should not have been put on display. I’m sure he regrets his decision to dredge up the whole affair.

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    1. When an innocent child has been murdered, it actually is the public’s business, b/c crimes are considered offences against the people. That’s why criminal cases are always a state vs. the accused (e.g., The People of the State of Colorado v. Lindsey Thomas Hardin). The story never added up, hence the public’s interest. Think, for example, if your child has been kidnapped, would you leave your second child in the same house, unattended in an upstairs bedroom, when the ransom note says you are being watched? Doesn’t that suggest the criminals are in the house or very close? Wouldn’t you want your young son out of there as soon as possible? Instead, he was left alone for hours, while the parents invited friends to the house. The ransom note said not contact the police or even talk to a stray dog or the daughter “dies”. They, however, immediately phoned the police, never mentioning that threat in the note, not giving a detailed description of what their “kidnapped” daughter looks like (so an alert could go out asap), and invite friend to the house. The ransom note was also written at the house and was the longest in FBI history, and they found evidence that a practice note had been written. Also, the evidence showed the tape on the daughter’s mouth was applied after she died/lost consciousness and that the cord on her hands also was not an actual restraint but a staging.

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      1. No mother on the face of this earth would do such a thing to her own child. It is within the realm of possibility but so rare. I’m sure there is evidence of serious mental instability leading up to such rare cases.
        And a 9 year old child would never do such a thing. On his show today, Dr Phil said that he was never a suspect.
        Dr Phil explained today that there was a man’s blood on her panties and on the band of her pyjama bottoms. Within two days of her murder this information was established but the police continued to spread lies to the media about the family such as “There were no footprints in the snow outside the window so it was inside job.” There were no footprints in the snow because there was NO SNOW which one could clearly see in the crime scene photos taken that morning.
        I think the evidence of a stranger’s DNA at the crime scene is proof that an intruder killed the poor child.
        Can you imagine if your own child were murdered and people were relentless in their attacks and accusations of you. ..as if you aren’t suffering the depths of hell at losing your child, especially one who was killed so brutally? I don’t understand how anyone could for a moment entertain the possibility of the parents…or a young child committing such a crime. Would people not be more inclined to think it was a stranger…especially when the parents were exonerated years ago?
        It makes you wonder if people have some personal agenda…such as, “These people had it all. I don’t and so I am going to bring them down to my level by accusing them of killing their own child!”

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      2. It’s when people go overboard and become judge and jury based on false, misleading or no evidence and lash out at people who are already in the depths of despair, that it goes beyond people’s rights. One may have the right to know about crimes. But to judge and attack innocent people is just wrong and distasteful. A person’s rights end where the next person’s begin. The Ramsey’s rights to a normal life for themselves and their son were constantly infringed upon.

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      3. Sadly, it is not uncommon for parents to kill their children or for siblings to do kill their siblings. If you follow the news, it seems there’s a case of a family member killing a child just about every other week. I am not saying Jonbenet Ramsey’s parents or brother killed her, btw. With regard to the DNA, it actually was NOT available days after the tragedy. New DNA technology revealed some of it more than 10 years later, and the amount of DNA was sooooo small – it was not blood – that experts say it could have been from a cough or sneeze.

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    2. If it’s vulgar and voyeuristic (and it definitely is voyeuristic, but that’s what happens when a dead child is involved–people care!), but then why are you here commenting? You are now also delving into this voyeuristic behavior which you supposed abhor.

      This sweet young man, may have murdered someone. Sounds like you aren’t being objective. Having Asperger’s does not keep someone from possibly committing murder.

      Personally, I don’t think he regrets this decision. He’s being paid for this interview, and I’m assuming he did it for 7 figures and is happily purchasing a new car right now.

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      1. I was hoping to convince people to leave these poor grieving parents and son alone. I wish people would just believe the facts. The courts found none of the Ramseys responsible for the death of JonBenet. There does not need to be any further doubt or discussion….or unrelenting torment of these innocent people.

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    3. It is our business a small child was murdered and the evidence points to someone in the house not an intruder the DNA was spot DNA which is erroneous. It should be everyone’s business to bring justice to Jon Benet. I believe there were alot of mysterious things going on in that house with that family I believe John Ramsey knows what happened the son knows what happened and Patsy knew exactly what had happened to that little girl.

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  20. Dr. Glass, I believe you are mistaken in accusing Burke of changing his story. The transcript of an early interview was released recently (http://www.people.com/article/burke-ramsey-1998-interview-from-jonbenet-ramsey-ae-documentary), and he said his mother burst into his room very early. Later, someone with a flashlight came to his room (he later learned that was a police officer). He was taken to a friends house early in the day, and his sister’s body was discovered in the afternoon. From the friend’s house, he was later taken to other friends’ house, where his father told him that Jonbenet was now in heaven. I believe that occurred in the early evening.

    Please, research your facts. You have an obligation to do your research. Saying Burke changed his story suggests he is lying, when his story has not changed. Peace.

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    1. No mistake here so do your research. My facts were researched. In his childhood tape he said he did not come out of the room.He said heard his mother upset but did not come down. Finally, his father came into his room to tell him what was going on and what to do. patsy di dnot come in and tell him this. His father was the first one who came into his room and communicated with him. Then he said in the Dr. Phil tape that his mother came into his room looking for JonBenet. The most important aspect which you missed is that he was smiling both as a child and as an adult when she spoke of the agon Patsy was going through. That is the key issue here. Oh and one more thing, I am not accusing anyone of anything just asking questions.

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      1. You are mistaken. Please read the link I included, is says the following from Burke’s interview by a detective in 1998:

        Of the morning JonBenét went missing, Burke – squirming in his seat while sipping from a soda can – said in the interview that he remembered his mother, Patsy, rushing into his room and turning on the lights before looking around and rushing out.

        “I just lay in bed with my eyes closed and like sort of thinking of what might have happened to them,” Burke said of his actions, noting, “I just heard my mom going psycho.”

        The boy said he never left his bedroom while police and neighbors came in and out of the house, explaining that he was “so scared.”

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      2. I thought the smile was one of embarrassment over his mother’s having acted “psycho” – that he was embarrassed to report how she was acting uncomposed.

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      3. Dr Phil on his program today said that so many people were concerned about Burke’s inappropriate smiling so he was going to address that issue. He said that it was due to anxiety. He said that people react to stress in different ways…and Burke smiles when he is anxious. Dr Phil said that he got to know Burke and said that he was very honest and forthcoming. He’s a very bright young man, a private kind of person, not autistic. He works on his own without much human contact but that he has a girlfriend and leads a happy life.

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    2. Burke also testified in front of the grand jury.
      A body language expert would take more than just a smile and some fidgeting into account before concluding what you did.
      If you report what you hear then you should say that when writing something. I.e. I heard

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  21. While watching the recent interview with John mark karr om really surprised been ruled out completely. Hid ex wife’s parents have love letters jmk wrote to their daughter when she was 13 that were signed SBTC just like the ransom letter 10 yrs before jonbenet was killed. He also s as I d he was an accomplice and not the one who killed her which would make sense..too many coincidences.

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  22. I had a childhood friend who had Asperger’s. When my friend’s mother was going through some hard times and I don’t recall my friend ever once smiling like Burke did while he discussed his mother’s anguish. I think people want to ignore the reality that some children to behave in monstrous ways.

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      1. Ignorant people like you make me sick via their continued propagations of such holy cows that “a mother would never do that to her child.” I hope to God that you do not work in law….wait, if you did you would probably have a clue. Whew!

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    1. I agree. The ones I know that have aspergers dont act like that, constantly grinning and not showing proper seriousness on a subject. They’re not devoid of caring. Dr. Phil I believe was threatened or too coward to say how he really feels about Burke. First he said he would leave us the viewers to make up out own opinions and conclusions on Burk’s odd behaviour. Then later on he puts out a puff piece and a bunch of excuses and nice reasons why he acted like that. Why the change? I bet Dr. Phil got a phone call or letter from an attorney.

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  23. You guys need to stop obsessing about the aspergers thing. On dr phils extra follow up show, he stated that he definitely isn’t on the spectrum. There’s things about dr Phil that I don’t like but i def respect his opinion on stuff like that. Stop w the aspergers stuff 😩

    Stop badgering dr glass. If you don’t like what you read, move the heck on already. This is supposed to be a healthy conversation.

    Have you guys seen the handwriting analysis for john mark karr? Check it out and take a close look at his d’s.

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    1. Thank you Karen. Exactly! i know Dr. Phil and he is a true professional so if he said Burke doesn’t have Aspergers Syndrome I believe him. People like i’mnotreallyhere and CCaron are simply looking for a fight. They can fight elsewhere, not here. And yes if they don;t like it move on. Thank you again.

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  24. Let’s keep in mind that if Pasty wrote the note this doesn’t prove her guilt. But to me the note is clearly an attempted cover. Who ever wrote it must know who did it. It could even by a cover for a close family friend. However IMO a friend doing this would create great anger. Therefore I believe either John or Patsy did it.

    If there was proven sexual assault/rape then John very likely did it. I was struck by how a photo of his newer wife/GF in today’s cbs case study looks young and cursive, an adjust but so child like. I think Burke is far less likely to have done it though I don’t know of his personality. He seemed shy, withdrawn and not acting out in any way.

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  25. Did you know an 80 million dollar lawsuit was filed by Ramsey for defamation of character and settled out of court. It’s no surprise to anyone thanks to the internet that ugly things happen. After rethinking the scenario after viewing Burke’s behavior, my view, at this point, is that this darling child may have been apt to have temper tantrums, being coddled and perhaps everything she wants.

    I believe the evidence of penetration in a 6 year old girl is evidence of sexual activity and her sibling is my guess. I believe she and her brother Burke got into argument and she threatened to tell, even if it was an agreed-upon exploration as children can embark on, and he simply went into a pubescent rage, which is no small thing in a 9 year old when a 6 year old girl has invoked rage. He hit her over head with a heavy object when she was facing away from him. I think she was still alive and her mother finished her off in a state of saving her lifestyle and her family from the shame and loss she knew was coming. Burke has a smirk on his face at the funeral and another walking by a camera. Same smirk as on Dr. Phil interview. He dates a girl who looks exactly as his sister is projected to look like had she lived as well which cannot go unnoticed.

    It is also possible deal was made to kick back some lawsuit cash to the prosecutors and crime scene investigators, made behind scene by pricey attorney. Sort of like pricing deadly pharmaceuticals at high dollar in preparation for lawsuits to come in 5 years as side effects being to surface.

    I believe that the stage was set to make it appear that a stranger came into house and performed the heinous acts to throw off focus from this all-American family. I believe mother and brother worked together, father played along and that because Jon Benet was such a demanding little girl, now confident and unlike her many pictures, not a toddler but a pretty demure little girl who has been on a pedestal. Add to the ovarian cancer, and the hormonal impact of having estrogen supply cut off, it could very well have been her mother who beat her daughter to a pulp and damaged her physically in order to stage a child predator. But I believe the brother, Burke, got away with something, and his devious grin and bulletproof and expressionless eyes speak volumes.

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    1. Wendy, Wendy, Wendy…how could you dream up such a sordid scenario that seems right out of a fictitious crime show? Burke was never a suspect because he was a little boy…not in puberty btw and there is no incriminating DNA of his OR of his parents’ at the crime scene. Even the police who bungled the investigation never had Burke on their list of suspects. That little boy was immediately ruled out.
      There was blood from an unknown male on the child’s underwear and pyjama band…and THAT is the person who killed the child…and that should be the end of the story.
      Why, especially with the DNA evidence, is it not within the realm of possibility with anyone writing on this site that a stranger did enter the house and kill the child? ALL evidence points to that. WHY people continue to pick and prod and harass, berate and crucify this poor grieving family is beyond me. I think it’s due to watching too many crime shows with titillating twists and turns and unlikely perpetrators. This is not a crime show. It’s real life. Empathy, people, empathy!
      How would you like accusing fingers pointed at you because you don’t perfectly fit someone’s personal, perceived idea of a grieving parent…or brother?
      Burke is socially awkward…but it doesn’t make him a killer. He seems to be a fine, kind hearted young man who has been through a lot throughout his childhood!..none of which he deserved.
      When that girl from a religious family in your country was abducted from her bed, was the family crucified in the media? I have no idea. In the end, it was discovered that it was someone the family hired to do work on the house. And maybe it will come out…or not…that it was some one like that in the Ramsey case.
      I hope the authorities DNA test more and more people until they do find the REAL killer.
      There was a special on TV last night that was so salacious, so dishonest and offensive and in such poor taste that I felt dirty watching it. I turned it off in disgust.
      What does this kind of attitude and tolerance of persecution of these victims say about the American people? It all reminds me of a starving hyena tearing at their prey. Most distasteful and shameful. This would not happen in Canada…sorry. I could add that we would never tolerate a Trump either but that’s a whole ‘nother’ story, as you say.
      My original aim in writing a message on this site was to beg people to see reason and leave that poor, beleaguered family in peace. But people are too blood thirsty. I think, it’s due to ‘levelling’ as Dr. Phil calls it. You bring people down to boost yourself up. At least, at the expense of the Ramseys, this site is therapeutic for some.
      And with that, you will be glad to know that I am leaving this site, Dr. Glass.

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    1. OMG, leave those poor people alone! Have they not suffered enough?

      I couldn’t stomach watching past 10 minutes of that crass, base TV special on the JonBenet case. The manipulation of the facts was evident…as in the interpretation of the garbled, squeaky noises heard in the background after Patsy’s 911 call. It became we ‘think’ it could possibly mean such and such to when re-interpreted by the host to the panel of experts, it became ‘we heard for sure’. Such outright dishonesty! It’s warping the truth to suit their case. Disgusting and shameful! Dr. Glass, you are astute and this was surely evident to you. Please, in support of fairness, honesty and common decency, support the Ramseys.

      People, there was the DNA of a stranger in two places (saliva or blood) on 2 different articles of clothing…which means SOMEONE ELSE is guilty. You are flogging a dead horse! The case against the Ramseys is closed!

      At least the ‘good’ in all this is that many people now feel self righteous and superior at the expense of the poor Ramseys who lost their child in such a tragic way.

      When the perpetrator is found, tried (not in the court of public opinion) in a court of law and condemned, will the accusers who are viciously out for blood, regret tormenting this grief stricken family?
      How can I leave this blog? Dr Glass, can you remove me please? I don’t see a way to cancel. I feel sullied reading such hateful comments.

      Disgusted in Canada

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  26. After watching the CBS special The investigators concluded after going over all the evidence, autopsy and reenactment, it was a probable accident not murder. Both parents were involved in the coverup including the strangulation and random note.. the crime scene was staged. Evidence points to Burke hit her with the flashlight.

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  27. When this happened in 1996, I initially thought the family had something to do with the murder. I only gave Burke a passing thought as to killing his sister (however unintentional it may have been). But as time went on, I believed the Ramsey’s story. They seemed genuine in their grief. And, it certainly seemed like a botched up investigation with much infighting among the professionals.

    I was still on the Ramseys side of the fence for YEARS, until the second installment of the CBS program when…everything changed.

    I do believe Burke did it. Of course, not “pre-meditated” or calculated, but still, a deliberate hit to JonBenet with the Maglite flashlight. Perhaps he was ticked off at her after a long, stressful day and when she grabbed “his” pineapple, it was a kid’s last straw. Or perhaps she found him opening the Christmas presents that were for their second Christmas in Michigan; perhaps she said “I’m telling!” And in a fit of pique, Burke lashed out at her, hitting her on the head with the flashlight.

    Siblings fight, and Burke had previously hit JonBenet with a golf club (an “accident”). He had no way of knowing that by hitting her it could kill her. She angered him, he acted out.

    I believe now that all that came after was the Ramseys attempting to save their remaining child. I cannot imagine the unbelievable horror and panic of that night in their house. But by protecting Burke did this also prevent him from getting real help? He was a troubled child (the problems with his bowels and how he spread his feces around JonBenet’s room…), and by the looks of his “interview” with Phil, he still does not register proper emotions for what he says (as similar to his taped interviews at ages 9 and 11 – eye openers, for sure, for the viewers).

    One more thing, and it’s simply my own thought and opinion, I believe that D.A. Alex Hunter was told (or knew) who actually had killed JonBenet, and there was no way he was ever going to take this case to court. This is why he rejected the Grand Jury’s findings.

    I was a believer in the Ramsey’s for years. I am sorry for what they went through. I’m sorry a little girl died. But it was not an intruder who killed JonBenet.

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    1. As ‘juicy and titillating’ as it might be to consider that normal, well balanced parents and/or a little boy would kill and sexually assault their young child/sister, it WAS an intruder who did it, proven by the DNA and many other factors. But it sure makes for a more thrilling story to condemn the Ramseys.
      Imagine for a moment if someone broke into your house and brutally killed your child…and immediately the police zeroed in on YOU to the exclusion of any other person and any other theory, and in spreading their story to the media in a deceitful and prejudiced manner, convinced many people in the country that YOU were the killer beyond a shadow of a doubt…how would you feel? This is what the Ramseys have had to endure.

      And imagine if this horrific scenario happened to some poor Joe who looked scruffy and whose wife didn’t look wholesome like Patsy and whose son was more than a little odd…they would have been dead in the water. Why? Because they don’t LOOK innocent enough. They maaaaybe look the part of someone who could maaaaybe do such a thing. Guilty! That’s enough evidence for most people. And those who are swayed by this sort of ungrounded, unscientific evidence, are on the US juries. Frightening and alarming!

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      1. I started to watch it and felt that is was so ‘sensational’. like a tasteless British tabloid; so completely devoid of truth and so manipulative that I had to stop after 10 minutes and go and take a shower!

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      2. That’s too bad that you didn’t watch. I thought the first installment was just so so. But the second installment changed my mind, after 20 years, completely, which surprised me. Many things were brought up that I’d not heard before, and also, I’d not seen the clips from Burke’s two interviews at 9 and 11 years of age. Took my breath away with the 11 years of age interview when it got to the photo of the bowl of pineapple. Wasn’t expecting his reaction, or rather his deliberate blindness as to what he was seeing before him.

        I feel sorry for that 9 year old boy and I feel sorry for the 29 year old man that he is today, who still acts very much like a 9 year old boy (the Phil interviews).

        These are just my opinions of what I saw (and have seen since 1996). It’s the Internet, we all have opinions. It’s not a court of law. Nothing will ever come of this case, so all we can do is speculate on what is presented to us as bystanders. If you had watched both nights of the CBS show, you might have seen how meticulously they delved into all aspects of the case, including building certain rooms of the house to scale and recreating all of the objects in the room.

        It did seem sensational at first, especially those unrelenting promos, but the second Monday night installment was outstanding. Again, I was someone who was a Ramsey defender for 20 years, so to reverse my opinion was quite a feat. You might see if OnDemand has the program – unless you are determined that nothing will ever change your mind about the case.

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      3. I just could not get past the lack of ethical responsibility concerning the totally incomprehensible noises on the telephone….that the pseudo-investigators claimed had clear meaning. I feel so strongly about CBS’ abuse of any shred of moral responsibility (which the US seems devoid of …from a Canadian perspective in regards to the election campaign) that I will boycott the channel. Shame on CBS!

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      4. I WOULD CHECK ON MY OTHER CHILD TO SEE IF THEY WERE SAFE AND SOUND, AND THAT CHILD WOULD NOT LEAVE MY SIDE. Why? An “intruder” has violated the safety. What would also scare me even more was the “intruder” did not enter by breaking the glass and climbing through, but the “intruder” turned to sand and poured through the keyhole. Seriously myopia has its limits

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    2. The Ramseys should sue CBS for spreading falsehoods and influencing American people to believe them…which causes problems for this beleaguered family. As an example, some fool wrote on the child’s tombstone , “Daddy did it.”. Where does this vicious, vindictiveness start? Initially with the police and then CBS picks up the slack. Is there no recourse in the courts of the USA for people who are continually harassed and maligned?

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    3. I believe A lot of what you wrote..especially about the police covering up and doing as much as they could do.to keep things at bay.
      LOU SMIT has always interested me ..i wouldn’t be surprised if he was aware of what really happened..
      The DNA seems staged to me. Staging DNA makes the case evermore impossible of closing the case..
      I have thought up many scenarios..og how it happened I’m convinced that no intruders were in that house and the family knew all along what happened..

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  28. Such a tragic case. The victim, Jo Benet never seems to have a voice in all of this. We know nothing about her, what she liked to do, who her friends were. She was 6, not 3, she must have been in school? I really hate the constant reproduction of her beauty pageant photos – so blank and projecting an inappropriate image for a small child. I don’t think poor Jo Benet had much fun in her life, as her mother’s show piece. Tragic all round. I could see an Asperger’s child lashing out and hurting another sibling (not understanding consequences, impulsive, perhaps aggressive) but he would not be responsible for the other injuries Jo Benet suffered. I would also be surprised if he had the actual strength to hit her so hard as she was apparently hit (or did she fall and hit her head?). But no way would a parent do the other things to her to ‘cover’ up a crime. The ransom note, I understand, the rest of her injuries, unbelievable. I guess some parents do such things – it is so hard to fathom though. That is quite a leap to absorb one child has killed your other child and then to successfully hide it forever? Shame on Dr Phil for not providing context for the brother’s inappropriate responses – he’s served up a developmentally disordered person for public consumption, knowing full well he’s likely on the autism spectrum, however high functioning.

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  29. In my humble opinion – Burke is responsible for the death of his sister and the parents misled and covered it up. The evidence, behaviour and the case put forth without a doubt of the above conclusion. However, I don’t believe he has autism or aspergers (over used diagnosis). Just look at DSM V manual, most people would believe they fall somewhere on the ASD spectrum.

    Burke is a sociopath.

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      1. Dr Glass, I am not a psychologist or body language expert. But viewing the interviews of Burke at age 9, 11 and 29 all the observations and assessments that have been put forth and correct me if I am wrong but my view or angle of these observations and assessments (eg; emotional disconnect, avoidance of certain topics, the hideous smile, etc, etc) is Burke does not believe he did anything wrong and perceives that his action/s in the death of sister was (and is still) justified right.

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      2. Yes, but if he were a sociopath of the violent variety, the disorder would continue to manifest itself, and allegedly “getting away” with JB’s murder would’ve not only opened the proverbial door, but have served as encouragement. And he doesn’t seem smooth enough (from the little I’ve seen) to be a psychopath. If anything, my armchair assessment would be borderline. ??

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    1. Raymond, you say, ‘the evidence is his behaviour’?!!… omg! Facts, facts, facts are evidence! And the facts are all there that prove that someone else committed this vicious crime…NOT an innocent 9 year old child! The Ramseys were all exonerated because one of the Facts is unequivocally that a stranger left his DNA in fresh saliva on the child’s body. Case closed!

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      1. Hi Robin, dear oh dear……yes evidence of his behaviour, he is a sociopath and is not going to come out and confess.
        DNA, right that’s the sample that was so minute that at the time they could not tell if it was blood/saliva or semen until years later (the mysterious latin male). The reliability of DNA evidence depends on a number of factors, including quantity and quality of the sample being analysed. How that DNA ended up at the crime scene is unknown but alternative scientific explanations (false positive or false negative results, the DNA sample planted/tampered, how DNA travels is still not well understood, our bodies cells contain our DNA and we shed these cells wherever we go and under certain circumstances our cells/DNA could end up in place we have never been, DNA does not have a timestamp, so DNA deposited at at crime scene 6 months prior to the crime could end up as part of the case). A DNA profile does not map the entire sequence, it usually matches 13 possible sections and a 14th for gender. DNA evidence is not black and white. The DNA profile did not match the remaining Ramseys, it still does not exclude them.
        Fact – crime scene was compromised. Friends and family allowed to walk in and out of the scene.
        Fact – ransom note was staged.
        Fact – Burke’s fingerprints on bowl of pineapple and teacup, yet he was supposedly in bed, you banged on about DNA evidence, interesting how you are ignore fingerprint evidence.
        Fact – Undigested pineapple in JBR’s gatrointestinal tract. This means that prior to her death she had some pineapple and knew her killer, go back the and read the preceeding fact.
        Fact – Post 911 call, regardless of what was said, there are 3 voices, 1 believed to be Burke, I thought he was asleep?
        Fact – the grand jury wanted to indict.
        Fact – psychologist and police interview of Burke at age 9 and 11, the behaviour, yes the behaviour.
        Fact – further unidentified DNA under JBR fingernails – sample too small and degraded to determine its source, but what it did yield was it was no match to the DNA found on her pj’s and leggings. Furthermore, the DNA was from 2 males and 1 female.
        Fact -crime scene staged, broken window with undisturbed dust/grime and cobwebs.
        I could go on, but wont, take your own advice look at ALL the FACTS….. sorry case not closed

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      2. Nothing on your list is ‘fact’. DNA as much as you want to make it seem unreliable with smoke and mirrors, is used in a court of law as fact because it IS scientific FACT.,..and the DNA on the child is fact enough to exclude the Ramseys. End of story! The rest is conjecture, hysterical manipulation and lies…such as 3 voices on the tape… Come on…those were noises, squeaks, muffled sounds…not clear voices. Anyone can warp the facts of a situation to fit their theory that the Ramseys are guilty of the murder of their own child. As for the supposed fact that the ransom note was staged…what kind of incriminating fact is that? Staged means what?…that the Ramseys killed their daughter? Funny how the fact that handwriting experts have excluded family members is conveniently not mentioned. As I said, it’s all manipulation and lies.
        Cyril writes, “That ridiculous faked ransom note makes it obvious that this was a coverup by the Ramsey parents.” The conclusions people jump to are unbelievable!
        Undoubtedly (but not fact) the murderer wrote the note before abducting the child, not necessarily planning to kill her…but then things likely got out of hand or he could not exit the basement room as he entered, with a crying child in his arms….and he killed her and then bolted. The intricately wound garrot may have been brought in to kill a parent if he or she had appeared on the scene. That is not fact…but you might want to consider it as such…but that would be in support of the Ramseys so throw out that theory.
        One has to rely on facts and facts alone. The truth will come out when there is finally a DNA match to the murderer but when it does, it will be too late to undo all the vicious accusations directed against this poor family that has not only lost a child but has become possibly the most hated family in your country.

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    2. Raymond, I’ve read the book Foreign Faction by A. James Kolar, a former investigator of the JBR case. What a great book. I’d recommend it if you haven’t yet read it. Just my opinion, but after reading and seeing the evidence that was submitted for this case, I came to the conclusion that one of the three Ramseys killed JBR. I too believe it was Burke and his parents covered up for him. I think he is a sociopath.

      I could not believe the evidence that was just plain ignored by the DA’s office. When retired detective Lou Smit put forth his theory for an intruder entering through the basement window, yet he never took into consideration that undisturbed spider webs remained on this window, I knew one of the Ramseys did it. I was also shocked at how awful a detective he must be. And that was just one piece of evidence that was ignored. So much evidence points to this being an inside job. But I guess money can buy you your freedom and that is what it has done for the Ramseys.

      Anyhow, I really came on to tell you that there are some people you will never be able to convince. They just don’t want to hear the truth. They would have done great on the defense team or in the DA’s office for this case.

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      1. …and sadly there are many people who will totally refuse to point the finger at anyone BUT the Ramseys …because there is no one to point the finger at besides them. It isn’t that the real murderer doesn’t exist. It’s that he hasn’t been found yet. When you can’t find the REAL suspect in a case to which all evidence points, you don’t default to whoever else happens to be in the vicinity. I can understand that it is very painful to imagine that a child was murdered and that people are so anxious to solve the mystery and that the only flesh and blood possibilities are the Ramseys but why rule out entirely that an intruder committed this crime? People are anxious to condemn grieving parents, and even a 9 year old child with nothing but gut feelings, warped truth, spider webs, lack of footprints in non existent snow, a note that no Ramsey wrote according to reliable handwriting experts, a socially ill at ease Burke, recorded squeaky noises that magically become actual messages…and probably next: voodoo and black magic!

        Competent, educated experts such as the judge and even Dr. Phil a renowned psychologist studied this entire case in depth, far beyond any amateur sleuths here and they found the Ramseys completely and irrefutably innocent.

        Now Boulder cops, find the real intruder. Cast your nets further and wider. And when the real murderer is found, will you hang your heads in shame for having jumped to conclusions with very little to back them up but ‘feelings’ and not facts?

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    3. I agree completly. I’ve read alot about pychopaths and to me Burke fits it. He seems devoid of empathy and sadness and only cares for himself. I found more interesting info on the second half of the CBS show about the family dynamic, by a family friend, who was ostracized for speaking to the police at the time. She said Burke was the PRINCE of the house prior to Jon Bonet. He was lavished with EVERYTHING, toys and trips and attention. Then Patsy went overboard with Jon Bonet and the pagents, even dying the child’s hair blonde much to this friends horror. The woman’s own daughter said, when she remarked about all the pagent awards ,Jon Bonet said ,oh those are really for my mom not me. And the interviews with Burke with professionals, were just as chilling as Dr. Phil’s. He never acted like he cared about losing his little sister. I remember one, when asked about secrets, he said yeah I’ve got secrets but I’m not telling YOU what they are. He seemed a sulky self centered kid, fully capeable of keeping family secrets and enjoying doing so. I was especially struck by the former family friend saying ,right after the murder ,when she saw Burke he yelled at her to not come near him or touch him. I believe that reaction was because he knew this woman saw through him and maybe on to him.

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      1. Here is a quote from Dr. Kenneth Robertson about people with Asperger’s syndrome concerning empathy or lack of it.
        ‘What is critical to understanding empathy in those with Asperger’s is the idea of having an appropriate emotional response to another person’s thoughts and feelings. A person may care that someone else feels hurt or pain, is confused and worried, has doubts and wants comfort, but at the same time not know how to respond in a way that fits that particular situation. This is what makes those with Asperger’s different and where the idea that they lack empathy comes from.’

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  30. So many on this site are posting false information about DNA, etc. It’s astonishing that some people still believe that there was an intruder. That ridiculous faked ransom note makes it obvious that this was a coverup by the Ramsey parents. Imagine waking up and finding a real ransom note in that large, rambling house. Would you leave your nine year old son alone upstairs in his room for even a minute? Wouldn’t you be terrified that someone could still be in the house, perhaps hiding in a closet? The Ramseys cost taxpayers a fortune paying for police investigations, the expense of a grand jury, etc. John Ramsey should do the right thing after all these years and finally tell the truth. But he never will. Poor JonBenet…. There will never be justice for her. As for Burke… He strikes me as a sociopath, completely devoid of empathy.

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    1. “So many on this site are posting false information about DNA, etc. It’s astonishing that some people still believe that there was an intruder.” FACT: DNA evidence was found under JonBenet’s fingernails, on the waistband of her pajamas, and in her underwear that DID NOT belong to ANYONE in the Ramsey family. This information was in the hands of the BPD 2 weeks after the murder but they chose to withhold the information for 7 months before admitting it.

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      1. Exactly! And that is one reason of many and a ‘fact’ that exonerated the Ramseys. May JonBenet and Patsy rest in peace.

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  31. What about the interview from the neighbor who says she heard “screams of agony” coming from the house and felt like it was coming from the lower part of the house. I don’t think it was on Dr. Phil or the CBS special, but it was on another special on the Ramsey case. The same lady stated that she thought Patsy’s plea on tv for parents to protect their children because “someone is out there” was bogus. If someone were screaming inside the house, has there been a re-enactment to see if the screaming could be heard from other rooms in the house or from across the street? They used this technique in the William Kennedy Smith trial, and he was cleared because the woman claimed to be screaming while the window was open, yet no one heard anything. Also, I don’t think anything of the bowl of pineapple having Patsy’s fingerprints on it. Every dish in my house has my fingerprints, because I’m typically the one who puts the dishes away.

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    1. And what about another neighbour who woke up in the night to find a stranger raping her little girl?… The man took off. That happened very shortly before the JonBenet case. Did little 9 year old, ‘sociopath’ Burke impersonate a man and enter that house to harm that little girl? There are some people out there who are SO convinced that the Ramsey family is involved in the murder of their child that they would concoct any scenario to crucify them, no matter how crazy and impossible it seemed to a rational person.
      I honestly think that there are people get some kind of sordid satisfaction from bringing down those who ‘have it all’. It makes them feel superior. Dr. Phil calls it levelling. In the church it is one of the ‘deadly sins’ and defies one of the commandments.
      Do some soul searching and if you believe in doing unto others as you would have them do unto you….and if you have any empathy in your heart, accept the judge’s ruling that a stranger, possibly and maybe even likely the same man who raped the neighbour’s child…and leave these people alone.
      We all know that stress which weakens the immune system can make cancer cells (which we all have in our bodies) proliferate. JonBenet’s poor mother lost her life undoubtedly due to the stress of losing her little girl…and then from the stress of being accused and continually harassed and condemned in the court of public opinion.
      It’s a tragic story that has gone way too far. And we, the public are to blame! Shame on us!

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      1. YOU ANNOUNCED IN DISGUST THAT YOU WERE LEAVING THIS SITE A TRUCKLOAD OF POSTS AGO. I’M SICK OF HAVING TO SCROLL THROUGH YOUR MALARKY.

        THE CASE IS IN AN AMERICAN JURISDICTION AND IT HAS NOT BEEN CLOSED.

        Go talk about Canada and your shitty judges who let alleged murderers go so they can drown their babies.

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  32. I don’t often comment on these things but felt that I might have some insight to offer, being the mother of an autistic child.

    First of all, most people who meet my oldest child will often claim that there doesn’t appear to be anything different about her. There have even been times when it has taken a very long time for friends or other parents to notice that she is “off.” My daughter had spent multiple days playing and even sleeping over at the home of one of my best friends before she called one day during one of these visits and said, “okay, she had a meltdown today, and I totally see where you are coming from now…” I have heard many other parents of autistic children make the same statements. My point here being that just because Burke seems “normal” in other situations does not in any way mean that he isn’t on the spectrum.

    Another misconception is that autistic people are always literal in thinking and speech and therefore cannot lie. From my experiences, I can tell you that this is far from the truth. My own child not only lies, but lies frequently and convincingly…..almost as if she truly believes what she is saying even when we all know she is being deceptive.

    Upon watching the interview clips of the Dr Phil interview, my instincts told me almost instantly that Burke is indeed autistic to some degree. Obviously I don’t know this is correct, but I’ve gotten to be quite good at recognizing the expressions and mannerisms associated with the disorder, and saw them immediately in Burke. I am not sure what bearing this would have on an expert’s ability to analyze behavior, but i would imagine that it would be very relevant.

    Autism could also be a factor when it comes to the initial crime. While there are many who will attest to their autistic loved one being very caring and non violent, this is not always the case. My husband and I dealt with extreme jealousy issues with my oldest daughter when my second child was born, with us ultimately making the very tough decision to place our oldest child in an alternative living arrangement in order to protect our younger children. I do believe it is possible that a child of Burke’s age could have committed a heinous crime against his younger sister. I would not rule out other scenarios, however.

    One detail that I don’t often see discussed in reviews of this crime is the fact that Burke was allegedly left to sleep. It is apparent that there are conflicting reports of who woke him up and at what point, but it seems the overall con census is that he was left in his bed on the morning of this ordeal and not thoroughly questioned.

    Now, I have a rather large home and four children. There have been a couple of occasions during my seventeen years of parenting where a child slipped off and we momentarily couldn’t locate them and of course panicked. For example, One child managed to slip under the back privacy fence and was hanging out with our neighbors cat for a good five minutes before we found her. In those situations, my husband and I both immediately grilled everyone in the house as to when they’d last seen the child, what they were doing, where they were headed, etc. I can’t even begin to understand why Patsy and John wouldn’t have had The boy up and asking him for any small detail that he could possibly remember from the previous night and early morning. All parents know that children will often claim ignorance at first and then later leak something significant, so a smart person would absolutely I think be pressing the child hard for any information, given his proximity to the site of alleged abduction.

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    1. You make very good points. It has always bothered men the inconsistent statements of who went in his room and when. Saying he slept through it but really they were keeping him in his room and away from incriminating himself..

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  33. Strike a light! There may be hope for you Robin, it’s good to see from one of your previous posts that you have now started to correlate sociopathy with burke (sarcastically, but its a start). However, since when did stress become a cause for ovarian cancer? (Re: comment – PR’s cause of death) There is no evidence based publication which has claimed stress as a trigger or cause of ovarian cancer. I would direct you to read about the BRCA gene.
    I completely agree with Cyril’s comment about people posting false information about DNA, again I would direct you to read scientific papers on the unreliability of DNA evidence, the scientific method on what constitutes reliable and unreliable DNA evidence and the countless criminal cases where DNA evidence got it wrong. As I pointed out before just because the DNA recovered from the scene did not match the Ramsey’s still does not exclude them. The quantity, quality and many other factors play a significant role in the strength of that evidence, as opposed to did it match or not. Furthermore, DNA evidence has to be presented in context.
    What was the motive of the JBR crime, Robin, Aly, Renee? Political — according to the FORGED ransom because it identifies they are a Foreign Faction. Was it kidnapping re: paedophile group? why hasn’t your precious DNA matched anyone in 20 years, was is child sexual abuse? why is it that JBR did not exhibit signs and symptoms (behaviourly and physiologically) of a child that has been suffering this awful act. The FACT is that the DNA recovered under JBR fingernails was MINUTE in quantity and poorly degraded in quality – the best information they can extract from that DNA sample was it belonged to 2 males and a female (Hmmm, JR + BR = 2 males and PR = 1 female, interesting). FACT the DNA recovered from the pj’s and undergarments was MINUTE in quantity and poor in quality, the best information from this sample was it belonged to a male of hispanic descent, furthermore there is valid scientific explanation of how this DNA sample could have ended up at the crime scene. Just out of curiosity, how are crimes solved in the absence of DNA evidence? Come on Robin, please enlighten me, is it “smoke and mirrors” or “voodoo”
    What is the explanation for the DNA under the fingernails? One possibility – doesn’t this usually happen when someone is trying to defend themself, lets see a poor helpless child suffering from an 8cm cranial fracture which occured 45 – 120 minutes prior, now defending herself from being strangled by a garrotte, maybe that was the best she could do in her condition – lightly brush those responsible and that was all the evidence she could leave behind.
    Finally let me also point something out about sociopathy to the three stoogers (Robin, Aly and Renee), a sociopath usually has a small group of loyal followers who defend the actions or claims a sociopath makes. The three of you should hang your heads in shame.
    I don’t mind a friendly debate, hell I don’t mind a heated debate, as long as the sacred grounds of common sense and logic are not violated. But the three of you, have crossed into sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity, the evidence, facts and logic you three present is at best below elementary.
    Enjoy the rest of your week.

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    1. There is no need for sarcasm, calling Aly, Renée and me stupid and ignorant….and more comments that are just smoke and mirrors. I guess we are in good company since a Supreme Court judge presented with all the minute details, facts and evidence found the Ramseys innocent.

      Re the stress and cancer correlation; stress impacts the immune system by weakening it, making it more vulnerable to the development of cancer. We all have cancer cells in our body. I don’t know how many years there were between JBR’s death and her mother’s but often there is a ten year gap between a very stressful incident in one’s life and the onset of cancer…according to scientific evidence, not my own suppositions.

      People are understandably shocked and upset by such a cruel and vicious crime against a small child. We don’t want to accept that there are monsters out there…and that our own children are equally vulnerable. JBR is in a sense everyone’s child. It is normal to want desperately to identify her killer. But in the absence of real facts, real evidence that definitely point to the killer, we cannot just accuse the only people who were in the vicinity of the murder who are also the most unlikely people to kill their own child.

      Supposed ‘evidence’ presented by the public pointing to the guilt of a Ramsey family member include a 9 year old boy’s awkwardness and unfounded jealousy, intact spider webs, translation of ‘noise’ on a phone into ‘factual statements’, footprints missing in the snow that never existed and outright lies and unprofessional conduct by the police. And to twist the knife in the wound even more, the public find more ‘evidence’ such as how a desperate and terrified mother SHOULD have behaved the moment she discovered her child missing.

      If a list were made, one showing how the Ramseys could NOT have been involved, it would be a long one. But as I said, people want to bring ‘someone’ to justice…and in the absence of that ‘someone’, the default killers become the parents or the little, 9 year old brother.

      To me, the biggest and most important piece of evidence pointing away from the Ramseys is that another child who lives a few doors away had been raped not long before the JBR murder. But no one wants to consider that evidence because it doesn’t fit into their neat and much more titillating and sensational theory that gives them a certain reassurance and comfort knowing who the killers are. A bogeyman in the dark is much more frightening than one exposed to the light of day. And what an added thrill when perhaps the rest of us are struggling, to bring down a wealthy family who has made it and has it all in life.

      I wonder if Elizabeth Smart’s parents and sister were ever under suspicion for her disappearance. If she had never been found, I also wonder if her story would have been in this blog with people branding the family as GUILTY!

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      1. There was an attempted assault on child *after* and the snow theory is out the window bc if you look at photos there was next to no snow!!

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    2. I completely agree w everything you said about DNA. And I completely understand your frustration with some comments – but some of what you said is disrespectful and out of line.

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  34. Robin, Renee and Aly my apologies, the last part of my comment was rude and out of line.

    Stress and ovarian cancer correlation – rubbish, WRONG again. Are you serious, this is a joke, right? This statement is an insult to those who are cancer survivors or who lost their lives to cancer, because all you had to do was reduce your stress levels……………….a lot of people worldwide go through stress, grief, loss, guilt, etc, and they don’t develop cancer.

    JR, PR & BR were not default suspects, or the victims or law enforcement bullying. They were and still are legitimate suspects (regardless of the DAs apology – an act of politics, not justice), Department of Justice statistical analysis of childhood homicides state “most homicides of young children are committed by family members through beatings and suffocation”. Furthermore, childhood homicides may be seriously undercounted, examples: difficulty of proving cause of death SIDS vs suffocation, head trauma – ?accident, ? assault, etc. The statistics show in childhood homicide that 60% are committed by family members and 11% by strangers, when you take JBR’s age into account, it falls to 3% that a stranger committed this crime.

    Was any DNA recovered from the attempted assault/rape of the neighbour’s child? And did it match the JBR DNA sample? Most likely not, otherwise there would have been announcements of a serial paedophile.

    A looooooong list of evidence exists that the Ramsey’s are responsible JBR death.

    Have a great weekend.

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    1. I think people have way more denial about family members killing eachother, or what sociopathy is and looks like, than accepting that monsters exist out THERE. I totally agree with the sociopathy angle Raymond. I dont even know what autism or aspergers has to do with anything, except people who have kids with it think of it when they see Burke ,and that’s their bias. Its not JUST the Dr. Phil interview that made me suspect Burke is knee deep in something, it’s many things. Also, I think the trace bit of DNA was probably from the guy who packaged the underwear at the factory. You can find that even on brand new underwear. It means nothing. I would think your child would have family members trace DNA on their clothing, since you share a household, so I think she was probably re dressed. It was said her dress she wore that night was seen soaking in a sink the next day. They said the DNA off the inside of the garrott would be more informative but it’s never been tested. I think the Ramseys didnt want their reputation and sons reputation ruined. They wouldnt have lost him because he was too young, but it would have followed him as a known murderer and their less than perfect family ,would have had the lid blown off. They couldn’t have that. And if Burke is a full blown sociopath he can live with it on his conciense forever. because he doesn’t have one.

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  35. I live with a partner with Asperger’s, when I saw Burke being interviewed I immediately thought “Asperger’s”. I would love for Dr. Phil to make the public more aware of this condition. I wish the family as much peace & closure as possible.

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  36. I have come to believe Jon Benet wasn’t asleep when they came home and John Ramsey didn’t put her in bed. I think whatever horrible thing happened to Jon Benet happened when they got home. I don’t know why I think this but it never sat right that she was asleep and he brought her to bed. Seems off to me

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  37. I see no evidence to suggest that anyone but Burke did it. It’s the only explanation that fits the evidence:

    Burke and his sister are brought back to the house after the party. JB is asleep, but her Dad puts her to bed. Burke’s hungry, so Patsy makes a bowl of fruit for him in the kitchen. Meantime, while their parents are dressing for bed, JB wakes up and toddles downstairs to the kitchen. She does something that ticks Burke off—probably stealing a piece of fruit. Mom made that especially for him, so he’s angry, and he chases her down to the basement where he smashes her in the head with a large, metal flashlight that comes to hand. He leaves her down in the basement and hurries back to to bed. (Notice he left the rest of the fruit, probably because he realized he’s done something bad—JB was on the floor, and her condition looked bad to him.) He knew he was really in trouble.

    At some point, Patsy does the rounds to see if the kids are in bed and notices JB is missing. Either before she goes downstairs or after a cursory examination of the house, she goes to Burke’s room and demands to know where JB is. (This suggests to me that Patsy may suspect Burke is capable of hurting JB.)

    Patsy and John search the house thoroughly and find JB’s body. At this point, their next door neighbor hears loud shrieking coming from the Ramsey house as the Ramseys realize their 9 year-old son has killed their 6 year-old daughter. That explains the remarks to Burke that are caught on tape and the fact that he stayed in bed, despite the entire furore.

    At some point Patsy and John decide that she can’t bear to lose 2 children, so they come up with an awkward plan to prevent Burke from having to bear the consequences. This leads to much legal confusion and a lot of wasted effort, but its only goal is to protect Burke.It did, but it left him the person you see now. His recent body language reveals a mind that is far from healthy, and he lives with the opprobrium of having killed his sister anyway.

    The DA must have figured out that the boy did it and dropped the charges to prevent the Ramsey’s from having to undergo any further horror. Wise man.

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    1. Wise man?!?! Yeah, totally wise to shield a person of interest, possibly a suspect, of raping and killing his own sister (uhhhh, NOT NORMAL, POSSIBLE SIGNS OF AN EXTREMELY UNHEALTHY MIND) from the consequences of his actions and then let him loose on the street. You know, because the DA doesn’t work for the public as a collective first and foremost anyway. If you got any leftover crack, sharing is caring.

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  38. PS – @ ahem, pretty sure a nine-year-old knows that bludgeoning someone smaller than you, even once, is not nice, or Christlike, or a good idea in general.

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  39. Dr. Phil is a cunning, calculating, exploiting, buissnessman making money out of a childs death. I think Burke is an undiagnosed psychopath. Unengaged, emotionally disconnected, distant, unempathetic, uninvolved, uninterested, not concerned…….his inappropriate reactions as a child correspond to his inappropriate reactions as an adult. He is a callous, calculating psychopath. Watching him is worse than watching Ted Bundy. In Burkes case the underlying agression is so subtle you hardly sense it. In Ted Bundy´s case the agression was apparent and unmasked. Burke hides his murdering psychopathy behind a misleading smile. Ted Bundy´s smile is just pure evil. But if you look very carefully at Burkes smiling face, playing the sequences slowly, its the same evil we are looking at. Yes I killed her but you cant do aynthing about it, I am smarter than you. I think that both Burke and John are psychopaths. One of them killed her. I think it was Burke. “We are not talking to you”. (John). “What did you do? Help me Jesus” (Patsy). “What DID you find? (Burke). But could this also be staged and the parrents are making Burke the Red Hering for Johns crime.

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      1. Thankyou Dr. Lillian Glass.

        After listening to two different sequences of the 911 call on the night in question, analyzed seperately, a coupple of things stand out.

        1. “We are not talking to you” ( John ). “What did you do? Help me Jesus” (Patsy). “What DID you find” (Burke)
        2. “Sweety, sweety, sweety ?”(Patsy). “I am sorry”,(Burke).” Will they arrest me?” (Burke).

        The first sequences analysed again in 2016.
        The second sequence analysed in 2012.
        Both sequences are available on Youtube.

        There are a lot of similarities between the reactions and language of Patsy and John and the Mccanns also with regards to bodylanguage and demeanor. They are distancing themselves.

        Burke is smiling his duping delight because he is manipulating and controlling Dr. Phil. Thats what he thinks. But Dr. Phil knows he a psychopath and the continual apologies for Burkes disturbing demeanor pisses me off.

        Look at the discrepancies between the seriousness of the matter and Burkes inappropriate emotions/disturbing demeanor. He is an undiagnosed psychopath/sociopath in my opinion.

        What I want to know is this: Why cant an 11 year old boy recognize or identify a bowl of pineapple?

        Watch the CBS documentary and then watch the Dr. Phil interview again, if its still available. The whole interview has been removed from youtube and from Dr.Phils website. Go figure………….

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  40. Thankyou Dr. Lillian Glass.

    After listening to two different sequences of the 911 call on the night in question, analyzed seperately, a coupple of things stand out.

    1. “We are not talking to you” ( John ). “What did you do? Help me Jesus” (Patsy). “What DID you find” (Burke)
    2. “Sweety, sweety, sweety ?”(Patsy). “I am sorry”,(Burke).” Will they arrest me?” (Burke).

    The first sequences analysed again in 2016.
    The second sequence analysed in 2012.
    Both sequences are available on Youtube.

    There are a lot of similarities between the reactions and language of Patsy and John and the Mccanns also with regards to bodylanguage and demeanor. They are distancing themselves.

    Burke is smiling his duping delight because he is manipulating and controlling Dr. Phil. Thats what he thinks. But Dr. Phil knows he a psychopath and the continual apologies for Burkes disturbing demeanor pisses me off.

    Look at the discrepancies between the seriousness of the matter and Burkes inappropriate emotions/disturbing demeanor. He is an undiagnosed psychopath/sociopath in my opinion.

    What I want to know is this: Why cant an 11 year old boy recognize or identify a bowl of pineapple?

    Watch the CBS documentary and then watch the Dr. Phil interview again, if its still available. The whole interview has been removed from youtube and from Dr.Phils website. Go figure………….

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  41. I’m pretty sure Burke Ramsey has some kind of autistic or Asperger element to him. In the CBS doco you see investigators making all these inaccurate assumptions. They are neurotypical people who assume everyone who has lost a family member to be exhibiting that common greivance behaviour. When they don’t see that, its just neural typical people, they are so retarded because they never understand what an asperger’s thinking is like.

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  42. I just found this blog by putting in stuff about Burke and autism, as I was watching some stuff on youtube and felt a bit put off by his actions. I normally would not comment on a blog that was written almost a year ago, but the fact that this shows up at the top of google showed me this blog is still currently very relevant.

    I have enjoyed reading a lot about this type of stuff, and find it very interesting. However, one thing bothers me. I believe that you are a Dr with a lot of background in this subject. What did put me off though was when people in the comments were bringing up him maybe having autism, your response was that it was not in your field to make that diagnoses, which is true.. But isn’t it your field to recognize behavior? ALL type of behavior? So, you should be more then qualified in recognizing signs of autistic type of behavior. I am astounded at how quickly you back peddle whenever this subject comes up because it is such an important type of behavior for you know about because of how HUGE of an impact it can make in knowing if someone has it or not. You can severely hurt someone by misdiagnosing them as a lair, and a creepy untruthful person for acting weird… when in reality, they could just have Asperger. Which makes those “lying like, creepy” behaviors 100% innocent and now all you’ve done was slander an innocent person, and made negative assumptions about them based off of behavior that has an innocent reason for being displayed. Why open yourself up to be proven wrong and hurt your credibility?

    Burke might have done it, or he might be 100% innocent. But even I can see that he shows CLEAR signs of maybe having a type of autism. And just knowing that *could* be a reason for his actions, I find your entire post unprofessional. There could be a completely innocent reason for the way he is acting, and you are ignoring it, and making negative assumptions about him anyway. As a Dr in human behaviors, actions, body language, and the like… YOU should be the one to notice these things before any of us. You should be willing to accept that it could be the reason he acts the way he does. And you should be more then able to talk about it.

    If you don’t know if Burke has any form of autism, then you should NOT be trying to read his behavior. Period. Because knowing that one little fact completely changes the ENTIRE meaning behind his behavior. If you refuse to do that, then you are just slandering him. And I find that extremely unethical as well as unprofessional. It also opens you up to be wrong, and this hurts your credibility for being able to properly read someones behavior honestly. With ALL the facts and reasons behind the behavior fueling your opinions.. and that means Autism being a reason as well.

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    1. I will NOPT diagnose Burke as having autism or being on the spectrum as it is not my expertise to diagnose this condition. I WILL do as I did dicuss my observations of his behavior which were indeed odd as he smiled at very crucial and critical questions. Unless Burke has had a battery of tests by a qualified and licenced pofessional in this area NO DIAGNOSI can be made accurately! So indeed I am Acting VERY professionally by NOT doing so,

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  43. Burke does not look to have any disorder. He appears intelligent and has very consistant eye contact and in some strange way he is connecting with Dr. Phil during the interview. The smile is odd but in all fairness, I believe we would need to see some footage of how Burke talked and acted even before that first interview with the psychologist when he was 9. Meaning we need some baseline BEFORE that first interview when he was 9. I have a feeling he smiles a lot and that is his general demeanor. HE appears very clumsy and immature during his 9 year old interview. HE did NOT have the capacity at ALL to have killed JonBenet in the methodical manner in which it was carried out. The detectives on the case said that JonBenet was hit with an incredible amount of force. He said this was an extremely brutal and intentional killing. He said this was an especially sadistic killing. The only psychic impressions I have had was a dream…in the dream JonBenet was dressed up fancy and wearing a sparkly bracelet…Immediately I noticed the bracelet…..I asked her why she was so dressed up and she said she “had a date.” I said “what do you mean you have a date you are just a little girl” to which she replied “I’ve had lots of dates”…..She had a bracelet given to her by her mother with the day of her death on it ….very eerie. No idea what the dream means. She was happy and smiling in the dream…I woke up none the wiser. Her case does not seem to be any closer to solving. Here we are almost Xmas again and she comes to mind. Such a beautiful family they were. I loved PAtsy. I thought she was so beautiful.

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  44. “it seemed odd that Patsy woke him up and was asking him where JonBenet was when her husband found the body in the basement. In essence, Patsy already knew where JonBenet was.”

    Burke’s recollection of his mother entering his room in an excited state and repeatedly saying “Oh my gosh!” refers to the period when the initial alarm was raised, sometime before 6AM. The 911 call was at 5:52AM. First responding police arrived at 5:55, and conducted a cursory search shortly thereafter. The body was found by John Ramsey 7 hours later at 1:00PM.

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  45. I know this blog is old but after knowing about the case for many years and reading up every so often about it I have only just come across Burkes Dr Phil interview. Here are my thoughts/observations. Burke actually only smiled whilst he was talking, the rest of the time when not speaking he looked quite nervous/uncomfortable/upset and NOT smiling. I don’t know what this means (oh how I wish I was a body language expert or psychiatrist because I really can’t work the guy out!) perhaps that is naturally just how he talks? I’m not a smiley person so I would find that type of constant expression whilst talking incredibly unnatural and uncomfortable and wouldn’t be able to do it for long. I think he seems like a very laid back easy going guy (too laid back considering the subject matter!) and I have trouble thinking of him being violent, but there is all the speculation about what he was like as a kid. I don’t get a creepy vibe from him like others, or a cold, unsympathetic vibe. To me it’s not him smiling or laughing in an evil way, or really a nervous way either. I don’t know what to make of him, I’ve never seen anyone like him before. I thought he seemed like a nice guy actually, he’s not Ted Bundy or Richard Ramirez! Perhaps he had to plaster on a smile to get through some very difficult questions or perhaps he’s thought about it so much it no longer has that same affect it does on other people-it has been 20 years.

    And I totally agree that autism should not be diagnosed based on just that interview, I don’t know too much about it but it should only be diagnosed by a professional who has evaluated the person and from my understanding can actually be quite hard to diagnose. Dr Phil also specifically said he does not have autism, now why would Dr. Phil want us to know that he definitely is not on the spectrum (when it would be a good way to explain his odd behaviour and Dr Phil was definitely trying to explain it somehow) when so many on here seem to think they can diagnose him as ASD so easily? Either he doesn’t have it or they don’t want it to get out that he has it for some reason. Sorry for the long post I just find this case and body language fascinating.

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